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techneut wrote:
I give up. This is getting MUCH too difficult and specialistic. Bit of a private joke between you and me because of all the Medtner.


I agree about the over-specificity of the questions. Whoever wins the round could add variety. There's no harm in mixing up the questions a bit. Think "Jeopardy".

I'm glad I was introduced to this 'Medtner'; his style is highly original.

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#25 Lyapunov?


Good guess, no cigar.


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Isn't that "Le Temps qui n'est plus" from the 25 Preludes op.31? On my score it gets number 14. :?


That's the one. My Jack Gibbons recording says #12 but you may well be right. And I misread your Dohnányi answer. +2, then, bringing you to 7. techneut's lead is in danger!


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techneut wrote:
I give up. This is getting MUCH too difficult and specialistic. Bit of a private joke between you and me because of all the Medtner.


Oh, I dunno. Someone else recognized him too. I agree with Pete that whoever does the next batch can and should take a different tack, and it was precisely due to that assumption that I chose the kind of stuff I did. For some people my choices, which are fairly representative of my quotidian musical diet, will be obscure and difficult; I recognize that. The next person's choices may be obscure and difficult for me. I certainly hope so. :-) In the long run, we'll all widen our listening horizons. And that's why we're playing this game, right?


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Still can't figure it out


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techneut wrote:
I give up. This is getting MUCH too difficult and specialistic. Bit of a private joke between you and me because of all the Medtner.


Oh, I dunno. Someone else recognized him too. I agree with Pete that whoever does the next batch can and should take a different tack, and it was precisely due to that assumption that I chose the kind of stuff I did. For some people my choices, which are fairly representative of my quotidian musical diet, will be obscure and difficult; I recognize that. The next person's choices may be obscure and difficult for me. I certainly hope so. :-) In the long run, we'll all widen our listening horizons. And that's why we're playing this game, right?


Expanding horizons is good, yes.

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+2, then, bringing you to 7. techneut's lead is in danger!


I don't think so, in fact this is actually the best I can do (and with plenty of help). Chris is going to win this round. :cry:


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Can we start a new game now?

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Can we start a new game now?


I agree. These were impossible, and biased to a few composers. A better game would be more familiar pieces (but not obvious like Chopin's preludes or Beethoven's Sonatas), and samples taken from a broader pool of composers.

I think that the game of Jeopardy is easier than this.

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The unidentified pieces are:

01 Marx: Romantic Piano Concerto (3rd mvt)
04 Confrey: Kitten on the Keys
13 Bortkiewicz: The Princess and the Pea
18 Medtner: Hymn (from Romantic Sketches for the Young, Op. 54)
20 MacDowell D minor Concerto (1st mvt)
23 Feinberg: Berceuse Op. 19a
25 Catoire: Prelude Op. 34 #3

Impressive work, Piano Societans! Thanks for playing. The winner of this round, and the arbiter of the next, is techneut.


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Go Chris, Go Chris! It's ya birthday!

Awwwwwww Yeahhhhhh!

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schmonz wrote:
The unidentified pieces are:

01 Marx: Romantic Piano Concerto (3rd mvt)
04 Confrey: Kitten on the Keys
13 Bortkiewicz: The Princess and the Pea
18 Medtner: Hymn (from Romantic Sketches for the Young, Op. 54)
20 MacDowell D minor Concerto (1st mvt)
23 Feinberg: Berceuse Op. 19a
25 Catoire: Prelude Op. 34 #3

Impressive work, Piano Societans! Thanks for playing. The winner of this round, and the arbiter of the next, is techneut.


Sheesh, Schmonz. I never heard of half of these composers. You are very smart, or I am very stupid. (Please don't answer that last remark. :oops: )

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Knowing obscure composers is hardly a mark of intellectual distinction. It could just mean I spend way too much time digging up buried treasure and you've got better things to do. :-) Plus, now you know them too.


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Good point! But musical knowledge is a big 'turn-on' to nerds like me. :lol:

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I thought this a good time to insert something completely random.

I laugh myself stupid every time I see this. :P

http://youtube.com/watch_fullscreen?vid ... Commercial


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Pete, what the hell was that? :)

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This does it for me (I've watched it several dozen times). Warning: colorful language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3mw49mk_x0


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Whoa! That sounds like one of my relatives talking (through marriage :wink: )
This is fun. It's like the saying, "When the cat's away (the bosses are sleeping right now) the mice will play. :lol:

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pianolady wrote:
Pete, what the hell was that? :)


Why, it was berries and cream! :lol:

It's a Starburst candy commercial. I laugh to the point of choking every time I see it. It just strikes me as hysterically funny.

Chris, put us back on-topic!!!


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schmonz wrote:
This does it for me (I've watched it several dozen times). Warning: colorful language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3mw49mk_x0


What the dollar sign/asterisk/percent sign/ampersand was that?


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Ah, Catoire and Bortkiewicz... I thought these might feature in your list !
Can you leave these around for a while schmontz, I'd like to listen again
to the unidentified items.

On to the next round then. This should be more of an equal opportunity affair.
I have largely restricted to lesser-known works of very well-known composers,
and the fragments are rather longer than before. I believe there's something
here for everyone, but there may be also one or two tough notes to crack.

As I do not have an extensive CD or MP3 collection I had to play all tracks
myself. Had great fun yesterday slapping these on without any preparation, so
no comments please about the wonky playing and the couple of clumsy edits !
Consider them an added level of difficulty :)

All 20 composers are different, none of them featured in the previous round,
from which it follows that none of them is Medtner :)

R1_0001 - Grieg: Ballade in G minor op.24 [spotted by Kschyschtoff]
R1_0002 - Faure: Prelude Op.103 No.1 [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0003 - Bartok - from Microcosmos Vol. V: 132, major seconds [spotted by pianolady]
R1_0004 -Schumann: Novellette op.21 nr.8 (Trio II) [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0005
R1_0006 - Bach: Toccata BWV 916 (Adagio) [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0007 - Falla: Fantasia Baetica [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0008 - Beethoven: Bagatella op.119 nr. 1 [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0009 - Chopin: Ecossaise nr.1, op.72 no 3 [spotted by Kschyschtoff]
R1_0010 - Rachmaninov - Fragments [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0011
R1_0012 - Brahms: Haendel-Variations (Var. XI) [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0013 - Albeniz: El Albaicin, No. 6 from Iberia [spotted by pianolady]
R1_0014
R1_0015 - Liszt: Unstern ! [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0016 - Villa-Lobos - Xo, Xo, Passarinho, No.7 from "Cirandas" [spotted by pianolady]
R1_0017
R1_0018 - Mozart: Variations on "Unser dummer Pöbel meint", K.455 (Theme and Var. I) [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0019 - Poulenc: Suite Française, 5: Bransle de Champagne [spotted by coccobill]
R1_0020 - Prokofiev: Gavotte, No. 2 from 10 Pieces Op.12 [spotted by pianolady]


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coccobill 10
pianolady 4
Kschyschtoff 2

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All 20 composers are different, none of them featured in the previous round,


After quickly skimming the tracks:

08. Beethoven: Bagatella op.119 nr. 1
12. Brahms: Haendel-Variations (Var. XI)

If memory serves correctly, never heard the other ones. I think I spotted a couple of composers, perhpas more. Now I'll go and hunt them down. ;-)

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from which it follows that none of them is Medtner :)


Which is a pity!


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A good start coccobill. You have been credited. I am glad it was not too trivial. Still things to discover even with the famous composers !

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So far - #13 - Albeniz Iberia - El Albaicia
#20 - Prokofiev - March Op 12 no.1

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So far - #13 - Albeniz Iberia - El Albaicia

El Albaicin, indeed.

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#20 - Prokofiev - March Op 12 no.1

Not so ! But, you could not possibly be closer :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The Next Round !
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Mozart: Variations K.455 (Theme and Var. I)


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coccobill wrote:
Mozart: Variations K.455 (Theme and Var. I)

Yep. I love this set.

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Dang, y'all are good. I don't recognize any of these pieces, so for me this round is just like the "Guess the Composer" game I used to play with my dad when something unfamiliar was on the radio. What era must it be from? Whose style does it sound like? What's the general shape of the piece? School's going to be crazy for the next few weeks but hopefully I'll have some time to think harder about these. Regardless, well done. And I really like the personal touch (literally) here. I suspect I couldn't have played most of the pieces I selected!

The International Rachmaninoff Conference is going on right now here in New York, and ends tonight with a concert. Jung Lin and Adam Golka will be playing Medtner there. Guess where I'll be. :-) Also, I'm analyzing the Op. 26 #3 Skazka for my theory class this afternoon. If I do a writeup, perhaps Piano Society would be interested to publish it?


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ok, I racked my brain :lol: and remembered it's No. 2 Gavotte.

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pianolady wrote:
ok, I racked my brain :lol: and remembered it's No. 2 Gavotte.

Bingo !

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Schumann: Novellette op.21 nr.8 (Trio II)

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Bach: Toccata BWV 916 (Adagio)

Smart choices, Chris. Both works usually neglected in favour of some of their sisters (the first two Novelletten and the D major and C minor Toccatas). And both I should have recognised almost immediately (Ciani and Sokolov my references for Schumann, Gould and again Gould for Bach). :-)


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Location: The land of Chopin...
1 - Grieg, Ballade in G minor op.24
9 - Chopin, Ecossaise op.72 no 3


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Well done, two points for coccobill and Kschyschtoff each !
I did wonder whether the Ecossaise was too trivial with all the Chopin experts here, but I am delighted that some did not recognize it :D

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Liszt, Unstern: Sinistre, Disastro


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Liszt, Unstern: Sinistre, Disastro


Darnit you beat me to it!

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I'm sitting here with my feet up, drinking wine, and listening to your nice playing, but I'm hearing everybody, now. Shosti, Franck, Ravel, Granados, Liadov etc...can't pin anything down, so I'm quitting. Good luck to everybody else!

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can't pin anything down, so I'm quitting.


That's what I said regarding my research paper! I handed it in without even finishing it, I ended in mid-sentence. Who cares, I have only 10 class days left before my 3rd year of college is completed. 8)

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coccobill wrote:
R1_0015 : Liszt, Unstern: Sinistre, Disastro

Indeed so. You are firmly in the lead :

Code:
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pianolady 2
Kschyschtoff 2

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I'm sitting here with my feet up, drinking wine, and listening to your nice playing, but I'm hearing everybody, now. Shosti, Franck, Ravel, Granados, Liadov etc...can't pin anything down, so I'm quitting. Good luck to everybody else!


I too hear some Shostakovich (track 16, at the beginning, and the transposition at 47'' is very much Shostakovich), but cannot find out what it is.

Track 11 must be something in (pseudo)classic style, maybe Mendelssohn?

Anyway, one more finding: track 19 is "Bransle de Champagne" from Poulenc's Suite Française.

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I too hear some Shostakovich (track 16, at the beginning, and the transposition at 47'' is very much Shostakovich), but cannot find out what it is.


Just listening again to it, and no, except for those very moments, definitely it is not Shostakovich.


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Anyway, one more finding: track 19 is "Bransle de Champagne" from Poulenc's Suite Française.

Yes it is ! A most lovely suite from a very great piano composer. Keep going !

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Keep going !


Your compilation is driving me crazy.
Yet, I've got one more answer: Track 7 is from Fantasia Baetica by de Falla.


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Your compilation is driving me crazy.
Yet, I've got one more answer: Track 7 is from Fantasia Baetica by de Falla.

One more brownie point. Coccobill for president ! :lol:
Sorry it drives you nuts.... too early for hints I guess ?

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Sorry it drives you nuts....


It's not that bad, one has to move focus to a composer's style, which is a good exercise. I smell some Ginastera and Satie (could be?), but currently cannot nail anything else. I am afraid I have run out of munitions. :?


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11: Reger? This is obviously Bach-inspired. If not Reger, then Busoni.


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I know I quit, but I think I've found one: #3 = Bartok - from Microcosmos Vol. V: 132, major seconds

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I know I quit, but I think I've found one: #3 = Bartok - from Microcosmos Vol. V: 132, major seconds

So you have un-quit ! Right, one more for you there. But coccobill is way ahead !

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11: Reger? This is obviously Bach-inspired. If not Reger, then Busoni.

Classically inspired, yes. But otherwise you are wayyy off :D

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When will Magician Breemer reveal his magic tricks? :wink:

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techneut wrote:
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11: Reger? This is obviously Bach-inspired. If not Reger, then Busoni.

Classically inspired, yes. But otherwise you are wayyy off :D


Cool, I have zero idea what is going on! You'll have to leave this up for a bit when the contest ends, too.


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