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 Post subject: Chopin Etude op25/9 Butterfly----final version II
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:44 pm 
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Hi Guys,
I have choosen a balance between speed and musicality....this is my interpretation of chopins "butterfly" etude...

I hope you like it.

Thanks

Chopin Etude op25/9 Butterfly----final version II


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Nice tempo and overall concept, especially in the beginning. Things got a bit laboured later on. The final bars are a bit deadpan, more poetry there please. It's not the last word in accuracy - there's are a number of slips, and lot of missed/inaudible notes. You should be careful with your "final version" label :wink:

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techneut wrote:
Nice tempo and overall concept, especially in the beginning. Things got a bit laboured later on. The final bars are a bit deadpan, more poetry there please.
Sorry Chris, thats the best I can hear and interpretate....

It's not the last word in accuracy - there's are a number of slips, and lot of missed/inaudible notes. You should be careful with your "final version" label :wink:
one slip at 35 sec I think, no need to lie. :lol:

I got other faster ones and slower ones, but to save the trouble of my audience,,,(including youself) but it may sound like an older butterfly or babe buttefly ..I dnt want you think sound like I played in two weeks, but it is a score I played 10 years ago. What I did is to recapture my recording. and did it on the weekend.

With the ff section, I played quick loud,,,with the rit..its my break :lol:


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I think your tempo is all right, but what I missed a little is a lighter touch. Maybe more staccato where they are marked - I don't know if increasing the tempo would solve this or not. I am no expert on these. The balance between your hands sounds good, but measure 25 should be more forte and there were some problems on measure 36. One of the worst place to have a major slip is right at the end, and there was one on the second last one - missed the c flat. Overall, you played this whole piece with only a few slips, so good job.

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thank Monica
One of the worst place to have a major slip is right at the end, and there was one on the second last one - missed the c flat.

Wooh :oops: the second last bar.....I better clean my ears :lol: suffered from continous recording ..


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johnmar78 wrote:
thank Monica
One of the worst place to have a major slip is right at the end, and there was one on the second last one - missed the c flat.

Wooh :oops: the second last bar.....I better clean my ears :lol: suffered from continous recording ..


I went home had a proper listen, and cflat :lol: was played.....


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I enjoyed your Butterfly because it was not too fast as is often the case. It's marked "allegro assai," not "presto" as so many people try to play it. Butterflies flitter and flutter; they are not hornets. You had some nice dynamic contrasts in the first half. Perhaps a little more forte starting in measure 25 as Pianolady suggested. But overall, I liked it.

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thank you all. And John. Chris ,I will decide later on...my Brian is bubbling.....


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Ok, Guys, this is the one I think the best. final Vesion II :lol:
Chris, I have decided this version II is currently the best one of time being. no more recordings...


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Okay.... if you want this up so it will be. Let that be the end of it.

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I too like your tempo, not too fast and not too slow. No Chopin etude is easy and considering that you did the job quite well. On some places it sounds a bit doggerel and not so evenly, but hey, it is so easy said and difficult to do. So overall I enjoyed your interpretation.

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I counted about 2 dozen slips. This includes missing notes and excludes any rhythmic inconsistencies. None of them really horrible though, so it is up the site now (had to, as this is The Final Version, or rather The Return Of The Final Version).

MindenBlues wrote:
On some places it sounds a bit doggerel


Doggerel :D That is a most wonderful word I must admit I did not know, and certainly will remember, if only to throw into a conversation every now and then. Quite appropriate here even though according to Wikipedia it pertains to literature, not music.

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[quote="techneut"]I counted about 2 dozen slips. This includes missing notes and excludes any rhythmic inconsistencies. None of them really horrible though, so it is up the site now (had to, as this is The Final Version, or rather The Return Of The Final Version).

thanks Chris and Olaf. Yes some slip there, I should play ?the every last note a little LONGER...I thought its the end of slur, should play a little shorter?? Anyway...return of final version is a funny thing to be said :lol: :lol:

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johnmar78 wrote:
Anyway...return of final version is a funny thing to be said :lol: :lol:

No shit... I now live in fear of The Revenge Of The Final Version :roll:

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techneut wrote:
johnmar78 wrote:
Anyway...return of final version is a funny thing to be said :lol: :lol:

No shit... I now live in fear of The Revenge Of The Final Version :roll:


Bit off topic here," return of the living dead" :lol: This is an old movie...


Anyway, thats a good motivation for me Chris. I thank you for that and aim for ultimate version.


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