Piano Society
Free Classical Keyboard Recordings
It is currently Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:30 pm

All times are UTC - 1 hour




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:13 pm
Posts: 211
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
No introduction needed here. Some music is famous for a reason.

Comments welcome, also on the sound. This recording is unprocessed, should I add reverb? More bass?

I post as a single file because it will be easier to download and listen to, it is intended as a whole. If admins want I'll chop it up. In any case I'll adjust tags.



Schumann - Von fremden Ländern und Menschen
Schumann - Kuriose Geschichte
Schumann - Hasche-Mann
Schumann - Bittendes Kind
Schumann - Glückes genug
Schumann - Wichtige Begebenheit
Schumann - Träumerei
Schumann - Am Kamin
Schumann - Ritter vom Steckenpferd
Schumann - Fast zu ernst
Schumann - Fürchtenmachen
Schumann - Kind im Einschlummern
Schumann - Der Dichter spricht


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:38 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9516
Location: Netherlands
You have a point about posting a single file. It would be great if people could listen to a complete set with just one click. However, we have discussed this before, and decided to stick to separate tracks. So, please re-submit accordingly. Please look at the existing sets on the site (mine, specifically) for how to name and tag them.

Back then I briefly looked into using indexed mp3's, which IMO is the way to go. But I could not get it to work and gave up soon :oops:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:18 pm
Posts: 1040
Well, I have hurried up and dowloaded it while it is still one file. Downloading 13 files or whatever is a nuisance and I am glad I am not alone here.

_________________
Richard Willmer
"Please do not shoot the pianist
He is doing his best."
Oscar Wilde: Impressions of America: Leadville


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:13 pm
Posts: 211
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
techneut wrote:
However, we have discussed this before, and decided to stick to separate tracks. So, please re-submit accordingly. Please look at the existing sets on the site (mine, specifically) for how to name and tag them.


Will do - your site, your rules. It will be some days before I have time though, hope that is OK.

Joachim


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:59 am
Posts: 258
I spent half an hour downloading this, it got to 86% then it lost connection and I had to start all over! ....that is one reason for smaller files.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:11 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9516
Location: Netherlands
troglodyte wrote:
Will do - your site, your rules.

It's not my site, I jut work here :)
These rules have evolved and been agreed upon.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:18 pm
Posts: 1040
hreichgott wrote:
I spent half an hour downloading this, it got to 86% then it lost connection and I had to start all over! ....that is one reason for smaller files.


Interestimg that. I did it in under 10 seconds in the evening, when the connection is particularly slow (I also dowloaded your Schumann at the same time, which I hope to listen to anon) and I use a flash card or whatever it is is called to access the Internet, so if anuthing I have a narrowband!

_________________
Richard Willmer
"Please do not shoot the pianist
He is doing his best."
Oscar Wilde: Impressions of America: Leadville


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:16 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9516
Location: Netherlands
Joachim, please hold off on reformatting FTTB. Let's review these first. It seems to me that at least one item needs a re-recording. I'll be back with more detail about them later (hopefully some others will chip in too).

Soundwise these are ok but a bit boxy restricted. They could certainly do (IMO) with some discreet reverb. Performancewise you seem rather hurried and vehement at times. No need to molly-cuddle these pieces but they should always remain gentle.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:13 pm
Posts: 211
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
OK, some people find it easier to access these piecemeal so I put them up one by one. (Not as difficult as I thought, using "export selection" in audacity). I'll fix names and tags in case it comes to that.

This is the same takes as in the OP, with one exception. No 3 I intend to be far from gentle and even conveying a sense of out-of control (perhaps I had a troubled childhood) but listening to it again I find it a bit too far out of control, so the take included here is toned down a bit.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:29 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8475
Hi Joachim, I'm at work now, so I can't check your tags. But I can see that the file names are incorrect. They should be:

schumann-15-1-parrow.mp3

note lower cases.

While you are at changing these, (I can't see your titles), but the title should be like this:

Schumann - Kinderszenen Op. 15, no. 3 "Traumerei"


Please see the tag/naming instructions at the top of this forum for more help.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:08 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9516
Location: Netherlands
I'll need to listen top these again. There was at least one I thought needed re-recording, probably the one you redid already.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:16 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:02 am
Posts: 163
Location: Sankt Augustin, Germany
Hi Joachim,

Thank you for recording and submitting these. "Kinderszenen" is one of my favourite compositions for the piano by Schumann and, in fact, it is quite demanding music.

I have listened to the single file recording, btw.

Generally, this is in my opinion a solid performance. Well done.

As I don't have much time at the moment, I can't make any detailed comments. Just three quick remarks.

On the whole I would agree with Chris, though, that it all sounds a bit hurried. Some pieces even sound quite aggressive to me, which doesn't really reflect the notion of childhood in the romatic age.

I think there is maybe a bit too much rubato in "Von fremden Ländern und Menschen" and the bass should be given more weight in the second part of it.

Regarding "Am Kamin", I have to say that to me the atmosphere of this piece doesn't really come across. The melody should me more 'cantabile' and gentle IMO.

Anyway, thanks again for sharing this.

Daniel


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:44 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8475
Hi again, Joachim. I just listened to these. Although there are some places that are a little more aggressive than what one usually hears, I found your playing and interpretation here refreshing. I really liked your fast finger work in no. 3! Well done on the whole set. I await your fixed file names/tags, as it will take me a long time to put these up so anything you can correct beforehand will be greatly appreciated! :)

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:58 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9516
Location: Netherlands
Ok, I guess it was no.3 that I had gripes about and seems like you have redone it and it's now ok (or else Monica would have complained). That some items sound rather (too) brisk and business-like is personal taste.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kinderszenen
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:13 pm
Posts: 211
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
Thanks all! Yes, I wanted to bring a bit of personal interpretation into this. Schumann states in his letters that these are remembrances of his childhood and not the standard cosy depiction of children. So I draw on mine, to make the games at the fireside a bit more energetic, and the hobby-horse ride to have some element of danger of falling off.

I'll redo tags etc and see if I can improve the sound with some small reverb (any hints appreciated!) in a few days.

Joachim


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 1 hour


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group