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 Post subject: Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Joaquin Turina seems to have had a healthy interest in Spanish women (can't blame him for that :) ) At least he wrote 3 sets of piano pieces about them, all with consistently good tunes and good writing. This is the last of these sets, recorded this afternoon. I hope on a cold and dreary November day these can evoke some images of sunny and sultry Spain. This opus is dedicated to Jacinto Higueras.


Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73 - 1: La Gitane Amoureuse (4:03)
Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73 - 2: La Marchande de Fleurs (2:35)
Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73 - 3: La Danseuse Mondaine (2:53)
Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73 - 4: La Belle Murcienne (3:15)
Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73 - 5: La Sevillane Joyeuse (3:00)

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 Post subject: Re: Turona - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73
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I liked most of these. Especially no. 4 - that's my favorite. Nice job!
(you spelled Turina wrong in the subject)

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The first two sound like something Debussy would write. (I don't know who would have been influencing whom in this case.) I agree with Monica that #4 is the most pleasing; the final cadence sounds not only modern but perhaps "not very Spanish" somehow. #5 sounds difficult.

They sound good to me. I know very little about Turina and so cannot offer anything wise.

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 Post subject: Re: Turona - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73
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pianolady wrote:
I liked most of these. Especially no. 4 - that's my favorite. Nice job!
(you spelled Turina wrong in the subject)

Thanks. Yes no.4 is very beautiful. And I've corrected the title.

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 Post subject: Re: Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73
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StuKautsch wrote:
The first two sound like something Debussy would write. (I don't know who would have been influencing whom in this case.) I agree with Monica that #4 is the most pleasing; the final cadence sounds not only modern but perhaps "not very Spanish" somehow. #5 sounds difficult.

They sound good to me. I know very little about Turina and so cannot offer anything wise.

Thank you ! Glad to hear they sound good. I think most Spanish composers of the time lent an ear to their French composers, however I find Turina's strong colors especially attractive.

BTW This is the second of this 3 sets about Spanish women, not the third as I wrote.

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Well done! Not great and dramatic music but pleasing to listen to. Not knowing any Spanish women I always though of the stereotypical agitation and sensualism - but these expressions are not the dominant ones here. I quite liked no 5, but also no 2, which I could imagine going a little bit faster to bring out the playfulness. Thanks for posting, these pieces are new to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Turina - Femmes d' Espagne Op.73
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troglodyte wrote:
Thanks for posting, these pieces are new to me.

You're welcome. That is why people must come to PS, to hear new things. Bach and Chopin one can hear everywhere ;-)

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Congratulations for this set, Chris. In addition to Debussy, I find also some clear references to Albeniz, with less harmonic complexity, but once you have listened all Iberia, you have to find something else to eat, haven't you ?
I admire how many pieces you can handle at the same period. You should be an excellent sight-reader (as opposed to me, unfortunately). If I may formulate a slight criticism, sometimes it can be heard that you read what you record (I am thinking of very slight hesitations which overcome the fluidity of some of your musical sentences). But this reading ability should provide you with a special gift for chamber music, among other types of practices...

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Thanks Francois. I thought you would enjoy these. But I have to disagree with you on my hesitations. Such as there are, they are on purpose, and not because I'm just recording straight off the page. I've known and played these pieces for at least 30 years and know them like my back pocket, even though I've never memorized them.
Funny what you say on sight-reading and chamber music. I've started playing some trio repertoire with my violin partner and his cello playing brother. Last time I was asked to to sight-read through the first movement of Beethoven's Op.1 no.3 trio. That was fun :)

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I am sure you have a great future in chamber music ! Hence I attend sometimes some amateur musicians meetings here in Lyon, and I find that good sight-reading pianists are very much wanted (and very seldom too).

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