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 Post subject: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:47 pm 
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Hey guys, it's been a bit too long (moved house) so I figured that I would record more Rebikov. Reves de bonheur translates roughly into Dreams of Lost Happiness, and the pieces evoke this quite successfully. Quite a number of nostalgic codas and melodies full of yearning, repeated often due to his unique stuff. I really like this set a lot. Comments are welcome! Will talk about the pieces more tomorrow maybe.

EDIT: Reuploaded No. 3; forgot to cut out the sound at the end.

Rebikov - Reves de bonheur, No. 1 "Andante sostenuto"
Rebikov - Reves de bonheur, No. 2 "Andante sostenuto"
Rebikov - Reves de bonheur, No. 3 "Moderato"
Rebikov - Reves de bonheur, No. 4 "Lento"
Rebikov - Reves de bonheur, No. 5 "Andante"


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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:46 am 
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Good to see you back with some more recordings Jonathan ! I well know that moving house does get in the way of practicing and recording a bit ;-)
These are slender but appealing pieces. I find 1-3 a bit monotonous/repetitive but 4 and 5 are good, with tome unexpected harmonies.

Clean and affectionate playing as we know from you. You certainly do your best for Rebikov. My one point of critique is that you seem a bit sloppy with the pedal, creating long blurs that I don't believe are intentional. Also there is considerable hiss/background noise in your recordings, can that be reduced somehow ?

The tags and names are mostly ok except that you did not fill the Year and Composer fields, and in no.4 you forgot to include the 4 in the title.

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:57 pm 
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Fine, Jonathan. Well played.
The pedaling did not bother me, but then I listen through speakers, which subjects me to background noise distractions.
I liked number 5 - a little more sonority than the others.

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:25 pm 
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Gaaaahhh...you Europeans and your 'moved house'. I can't stand that! You don't move a house--you move into a new house!!
Ok, just had to get that off my chest.... :)

Anyway, I really liked these! And funny, but I don't hear much hiss. I'll put these up over the weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:29 pm 
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pianolady wrote:
Gaaaahhh...you Europeans and your 'moved house'. I can't stand that! You don't move a house--you move into a new house!!
Ok, just had to get that off my chest.... :)

Gawd... you Americans. I suppose you don't change clothes a lot ? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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techneut wrote:
pianolady wrote:
Gaaaahhh...you Europeans and your 'moved house'. I can't stand that! You don't move a house--you move into a new house!!
Ok, just had to get that off my chest.... :)

Gawd... you Americans. I suppose you don't change clothes a lot ? :mrgreen:

Pppfffffff..... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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Great dynamics :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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ahahahaha....that's funny... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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Ok, these are up. Here at home I did hear more hiss than I heard previously on my other earphones, so maybe you can improve that upon your next submission. Also, you should add some sort of title to pieces besides just a number--even if it's just a tempo marking. I added one to all five files and then had to re-upload. Please check all links.

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:08 pm 
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techneut wrote:
pianolady wrote:
Gaaaahhh...you Europeans and your 'moved house'. I can't stand that! You don't move a house--you move into a new house!!
Ok, just had to get that off my chest.... :)

Gawd... you Americans. I suppose you don't change clothes a lot ? :mrgreen:


Good thing music is a universal language or you two would never agree on anything :lol:

Jonathan these are an interesting set and your playing here is assured. About the pedalling, I listened with my onboard laptop speakers and didn't notice it. This set reminds me of the Lamentations, the development on some of these seems nonexistent, they are more fragmented impressions, a number of harmonically related short phrases in succession. In that sense the word "Dreams" in the title makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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pianoman342 wrote:
Good thing music is a universal language or you two would never agree on anything :lol:

Hahaaaa... smartass...... who says we agree on music ? :P

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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Hahaaaa... smartass...... who says we agree on music ? :P


clearly I was assuming too much to claim even that... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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I listened to these on my "normal" equipment (away from speakers or computers. I heard no ambient noise or hiss, but then I am a young fogey who was brought up on LPs, so hiss to me is not all that important, as long as it does not drown out the music. I like your playing and the sound of your piano.

Why do you translate "Reves de Bonheur" as "Dreams of lostHappiness"? Bonheur means only happiness, while reves are no more than dreams. Surely dream can be also happy?

As with most Rebikov, I always expect something to happen and then... something does happen: it finish just like that and this might explain to an extent why he has largely been forgotten. I do like some of his music (and have even recorded one piece), but in general, I find that with a little more discipline he might have been a better composer.

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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
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Thanks for all the comments! For the pedal, I know from an Alfred edition of another set of his that Rebikov was fond of nebulous pedal effects, holding the pedal even through different harmonies. I tried to emulate that here and I think it did work for No. 1 but not so much for No. 3, where it does sound a little inconsistent and messy. Will probably try recording that again soon.

As for the hiss, I guess there were noisy children that day? Or it could be that the fan in the next room was on. May have to try modifying the recording setup.

I think No. 5 is the most do-or-die piece I've played; once you mess up that burst of magic, it's like the entire piece falls apart. >_>


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 Post subject: Re: Rebikov - Reves de bonheur
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:46 pm 
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Nicely played. I heard lots of Reves but no so much Bonheur though. (I wasn't bothered by any hiss.) The dreamlike and kind of non-committing quality is well brought out.


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