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 Post subject: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:02 am 
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I am contemplating a multi-part YouTube video series on a technical aspect of piano playing and wonder if any can instruct me on how to demonstrate/embed score passages that might be discussed?

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:13 pm 
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Hi Eddy - Do you mean you want the video to show parts of the score at various points? I can help since I recently made a video like that.

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:11 am 
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Yes Monica. Basically, a fixed camera on me at the piano with good view of the keys, but some visuals of passages of piano music. It could be just a few measures or a line. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:57 am 
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Ok, the first thing is to import the video of yourself playing the piano (or talking) into a video-editing program. Then you drag the thumbnail of that video into your timeline. This will probably produce two tracks - a video track and an audio track. You need one more track for the images of music scores, so insert an additional video track. This should then become the top track on the timeline - the second track will be your video, and the third track is your audio.

Backing up a bit... the music score... you will first have to do some cropping of the score in order to show the place in the music you are discussing. It's generally easier to see two or three lines of music in a video at a time. Once you have your score cut into separate sections/pages/images (I'd number them so it will be easy to line them up properly in your video), you will have to import them all into the video-editing program, just like you did your video.
Now back to the timeline in your editing program: drag the thumbnail images (or icons, however your programs displays them) of your music score into the top track at the places in the video where you want them to show. Next, put a split in the video track under your music score image above (a beginning split as well as the ending split). Then you can change the opacity level of the video to go complete black which then allows for the music score image above to be the only thing showing at that time. After the split, your video will once again be showing until your next music score image comes up and you want it to be seen. Again, just put in the two splits, adjust the opacity level, and then go onto the next image point. You can make things prettier by adding fade-in and fade-out points too if you want.

All this is how I do things when using my Sony Vegas editing program. Not sure how other programs work, but I'd think they would be a bit similar since these are basic functions.

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:29 pm 
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Thanks again Monica. I'll keep you abreast as to how things go. I wonder if this can be done just with the YT stuff? I haven't uploaded any video editor and wonder if I may have one already in some program.

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:33 am 
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I don't know for sure but I suspect the YT stuff won't do it for this.
I like Pitivi for video editing --from the perspective of someone who wants things to work and doesn't want to invest the time to become a professional video editor.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:44 pm 
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YT is very limited in what editing facilities it provides. Sony Vegas is reasonably easy to use, though not free. There are other pieces of software which are free but come with time limitations. Eddy, I don't know how you're acquiring the sheet music images, but I find that a screen capture utility is much better than trying to scan them (for example). I use MWSnap, fwiw.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:24 pm 
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Andrew - I've never used MWSnap and didn't even have it on my computer. I do now, though--just downloaded it. I sometimes use the snipping tool to crop or capture things, but it's very limited. Anyway, MWSnap looks real interesting! Thanks for the tip!!

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:22 am 
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andrew wrote:
YT is very limited in what editing facilities it provides. Sony Vegas is reasonably easy to use, though not free. There are other pieces of software which are free but come with time limitations. Eddy, I don't know how you're acquiring the sheet music images, but I find that a screen capture utility is much better than trying to scan them (for example). I use MWSnap, fwiw.

Hi Andrew, thanks for the tip. Is this the site you downloaded it from? http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
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hreichgott wrote:
I don't know for sure but I suspect the YT stuff won't do it for this.
I like Pitivi for video editing --from the perspective of someone who wants things to work and doesn't want to invest the time to become a professional video editor.

Dumb question: Does this work on a PC running Vista?

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
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Hey friends, I just noticed that my Windows Laptop has "Windows Movie Maker" on it. Should this be sufficient? Anyone have experience with it?

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
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Um... people do run Pitivi on Windows apparently, but I can't understand any of their explanations of it.
This is an explanation that is *not* 90% python code, at least...
http://wiki.pitivi.org/wiki/PiTiVi_on_Windows

It is open-source, so theoretically if you know how to compile code, you could compile it for any platform.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:12 am 
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musical-md wrote:
Hey friends, I just noticed that my Windows Laptop has "Windows Movie Maker" on it. Should this be sufficient? Anyone have experience with it?

I use MovieMaker for the few videos I attempt. It does the job although it is often hard to see the audio track (I need to temporarily import an amplified version of that to be able to see the waves).

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Um... people do run Pitivi on Windows apparently, but I can't understand any of their explanations of it.
This is an explanation that is *not* 90% python code, at least...
That sounds like one big jigsaw puzzle. Unless you love hacking around with bits and pieces of free experimental software I would not attempt it.

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
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I used to use Windows Movie Maker in the beginning too. It is VERY hard to see the music tracks! Eddy, you should just purchase a video-editing program. You'll be glad you did--you can do so much with them. And then you can make good home videos too!

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 Post subject: Re: Advice requested on video recording technique
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pianolady wrote:
I used to use Windows Movie Maker in the beginning too. It is VERY hard to see the music tracks! Eddy, you should just purchase a video-editing program. You'll be glad you did--you can do so much with them. And then you can make good home videos too!

Monica, I'm VERY glad you had some experience with this so that I can ask more. The project I will be preparing is not dependent upon special control of an audio track for music purpose. It will actaully be far more dependent upon speech, visuals of a score and of hand position on the keyboard. Do you think I could make a basic discussion-type video with score illustration inserts from time to time using Windows Movie Maker?

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