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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:11 am 
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Both of these pieces are very well played. I especially liked your dynamics in the Albeniz and your articulation in the Telemann.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:20 pm 
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Hi Samuel. Thank you! Good to see you again!! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:51 pm 
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@InFlightPiano : Nice to see someone dropping in again after a long absence.

The Albeniz is well done. Couple of things I noticed - they could be edition-specific (mine is Schott)

1) Three fermata not or hardly observed
2) At 2:15, the F-sharp is not played
3) The closing chord seems to miss the top f.

Not much to criticize except that the piece could yet do (IMO) with a little more freedom and dynamic variation.

I'm less keen on the Telemann, it sounds a bit laboured and rhythmically insecure. The terraced dynamics are well realized. Indeed the trills should typically be on the note (though it depends on the situation). It is customary to add some variation in the repeats, usually by different/more ornamentation but other devices can work well too.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:12 am 
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:shock: Oh, I am surprised! :shock: Thank you for listening, Chris.

Those fermatas--I just don't think they are supposed to be there. They don't make sense, so I ignored them.
The closing chord--I intentionally brought out the middle note, the d-flat, instead of the top f. I think the ending sounds better this way. Doesn't it?
F-sharp at 2:15? Sorry, but I'm not following...I don't see any f-sharp there.

Telemann - I've been intending to re-do it...for sure this weekend. I will try to smooth things out.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:37 am 
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techneut wrote:
@InFlightPiano : Nice to see someone dropping in again after a long absence.


Thank you. I'm really going to try to get active here again. I've been somewhat less active with piano over the past couple of years because I graduated from high school and am in college now at NC State University, majoring in computer science. I'm a lot more busy now than when I was in high school, and somehow, after doing all my homework assignments, practicing piano feels more like a chore than it used to. Of course I know most of you guys have full time jobs and you do lots of piano practicing anyway so I know I can do it too. I still love playing piano and have continued learning new pieces. But my piano doesn't sound good at all on recording, and I don't have many recording opportunities. But nevertheless I'm going to make a real effort to become an active member again.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:25 am 
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pianolady wrote:
Those fermatas--I just don't think they are supposed to be there. They don't make sense, so I ignored them.
That could be right, as I don't see them in the UME score.

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The closing chord--I intentionally brought out the middle note, the d-flat, instead of the top f. I think the ending sounds better this way. Doesn't it?
Not sure. To be pedantic about it, bringing out certain notes is fine but leaving out notes not.

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F-sharp at 2:15? Sorry, but I'm not following...I don't see any f-sharp there.
See image. This is from the UME score.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:06 pm 
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techneut wrote:
pianolady wrote:
The closing chord--I intentionally brought out the middle note, the d-flat, instead of the top f. I think the ending sounds better this way. Doesn't it?
Not sure. To be pedantic about it, bringing out certain notes is fine but leaving out notes not.

I did play the top note--just brought out the middle note much more so perhaps it's hard for some people to hear.

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See image. This is from the UME score.

Oh, I have that note in my score too! Never saw it!! :shock:
Thanks, I'll put a circle around it.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:09 pm 
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pianolady wrote:
I did play the top note--just brought out the middle note much more so perhaps it's hard for some people to hear.

I'm deaf.

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Oh, I have that note in my score too! Never saw it!! :shock:

You're blind.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:26 pm 
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
(what a pair of admins..... :P )

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
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pianolady wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
(what a pair of admins..... :P )

Indeed. If it weren't so pathetic you'd have to laugh about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
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Quite a nice contrasting pair of pieces. I don't know them at all, so I'll have to restrict myself to generalities. Re Baroque ornamentation, as the last time I took a Baroque piece to my teacher, I found out that half the ornaments worked a different way from how I thought they did :shock: (and I think wikipedia might have also been wrong), I'll keep very quiet.. except to say that there have been vast scholarly tomes on it and I'm not sure even they reach a consensus.

I do prefer the Albeniz, which is a fun piece. In both you have nice variations in dynamic levels within the pieces. The Telemann sounds a little bit sub-Scarlatti-ish. As ever in your playing, good articulation. One thing bothered me, it's small but tiresome - where is that extraneous note(s) in the Telemann final chord coming from? That can't be right.


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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:29 am 
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Thank you, Andrew!
But I'm confused regarding what you mean on the last chord in the Telemann. I did change it a little bit, but I only dropped the LH and octave and rolled the RH chord. I didn't think that was inappropriate. And I only did that on the repeat. I'm planning on re-recording the piece one of these days...I keep getting side-tracked...but maybe tomorrow. I hope you come back soon and tell me. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:22 am 
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By all means roll it. That's perfectly within the style. I was pretty sure there was a diminished 7th in the last chord. I put it into Audacity and slowed it down to check; it sounds like your thumb didn't hit the bottom A of the treble chord very cleanly and there's a G as well. I wouldn't worry about it too much, no-one else has commented on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:21 pm 
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Ah....I've done that before. Sharp ears, Andrew! :) Thank you, I'll be careful on my next recording.

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 Post subject: Re: Albeniz and Telemann
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:22 pm 
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Beautiful pieces, very enjoyable. More importantly, you seem to enjoy playing them as well which brings a feeling of freshness, openness. Your preference towards Albeniz is evident though.


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