Piano Society
Free Classical Keyboard Recordings
It is currently Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:00 am

All times are UTC - 1 hour




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:55 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
W. A. Mozart: first movement of the symphony no. 40 in g-minor, KV 550, Allegro molto, arranged for piano four hands by Hugo Ulrich, performed by Chris Breemer (Primo, Netherlands) and Andreas Pfaul (Secondo, Germany).

Chris has visited me from Wednesday-saturday this week.This is just an "encore" to our main project, "Vysehrad", the first movement of Smetanas "Ma vlast", which I will upload soon. (We already have recorded the "Moldau", 2nd movement of "Ma vlast", it´s also here on this site.)

We only had three hours in summary for recording the first movement of Mozarts symphony and it wasn´t too well prepared. But I think, it´s decent enough to post it here. It´s a fun to play arrangements of symphonies on piano and one can learn so much of it!

It´s a great pleasure to play with you, Chris! I thank you for the collaboration and the great days with good thoughts and talks, B&B and "43"! And not to forget our inspiring visit to the Bachhaus in Eisenach! Thank you for having been here and I´m looking forward for the completion of this symphony-arrangement in summer!

There are a couple of little imperfections, but we think, it still can be enjoyed in spite of that.

Comments are welcome!

Here is the mp3-file:
Mozart - Symphony No. 40 in G minor, KV 550 - 1: Molto Allegro (8:00)


And here is the link to our video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wwQiD3Zhsc

The mp3-file is exactly the audio-track of the video.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:17 pm
Posts: 418
Location: Boston
Most people who visit another place usually take a souvenir with them back home. But you two seem to bring a souvenir with you to the host city with a recording. Perhaps that is the ultimate gift in the spirit of musical brotherhood. Indeed a fantastic recording, Chris and Andreas. You always project keen sense of intelligence without pretension nor arrogance in your recordings. This element alone makes it very enjoyable for any listener. If there are weaknesses here that you mentioned, too subtle to mention. Congratulations on the recording and I like the arrangement here very much.

George

_________________
"Nobility of spirit has more to do with simplicity than ostentation, wisdom rather than wealth, commitment rather than ambition." ~Riccardo Muti


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:04 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
Thanks George ! Yes it is a nice arrangement. Quite tricky in places such as when playing unisono and with hands very close to each other. That accounts for most of the fluffs here. But we seem to be tackling the subtle challenges of 4-hand playing better each time. Only thing is that we seem to be suddenly faster around 5:38. I wonder if anybody will suspect why that could be :D

Thank you Andreas for your hospitality and the great playing (and for creating the videos !). It was a pleasure as always. To be continued :D

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:09 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 12:11 am
Posts: 742
Location: Edinburgh, UK
Congratulations to both of you, any small slips don't detract from the overall favourable impression. Sound like an well laid-out and effective arrangement and you look like you have both developed a good mutual musical understanding.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:29 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8519
That's a nice video. Good job! Probably there is a shift in the tempo at that one spot, because there is also a shift in the clothes...

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:28 am
Posts: 1250
Location: Springfield, Missouri, USA
How FUN! Listening to that just makes me feel wonderful inside. I was completely transported beyond the medium of the piano and experienced it nearly as in the concert hall. I must get a copy of that and do it with my son. Thanks for the video. Your use of rubato at the transition back to the recapitulation was excellent IMO. I would have wished for more dynamic contrast at certain times, especially in the development, but really enjoyed this fine performance.

Best wishes.

_________________
Eddy M. del Rio, MD
"A smattering will not do. They must know all the keys, major and minor, and they must literally 'know them backwards.'" - Josef Lhevinne


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:02 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
pianolady wrote:
That's a nice video. Good job! Probably there is a shift in the tempo at that one spot, because there is also a shift in the clothes...

Hehe, I thought someone would notice that in the end :D

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:08 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
musical-md wrote:
How FUN! Listening to that just makes me feel wonderful inside. I was completely transported beyond the medium of the piano and experienced it nearly as in the concert hall. I must get a copy of that and do it with my son. Thanks for the video. Your use of rubato at the transition back to the recapitulation was excellent IMO. I would have wished for more dynamic contrast at certain times, especially in the development, but really enjoyed this fine performance.

Thanks Eddy. Agreed on the lack of dynamics in the development section, this sounds a bit dogged. This is something that would have evolved naturally had we had more practice and recording time.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
88man wrote:
Quote:
Perhaps that is the ultimate gift in the spirit of musical brotherhood.


That´s a thought I really like and I agree at hundred percent! :!:

Quote:
Indeed a fantastic recording, Chris and Andreas. You always project keen sense of intelligence without pretension nor arrogance in your recordings. This element alone makes it very enjoyable for any listener. If there are weaknesses here that you mentioned, too subtle to mention. Congratulations on the recording and I like the arrangement here very much.


Thank you, George, your words make me happy! :D
I´m glad you like the arrangement, there are several and I think, this one is truely not the worse. (During my studies I have made an own arrangement of this movement for piano two hands, btw, that was also a task, I have loved very much.)

Techneut wrote:
Quote:
That accounts for most of the fluffs here. But we seem to be tackling the subtle challenges of 4-hand playing better each time.


I agree, somehow I have the feeling we improve each time we play together. (Phew, where should this end. :wink: )

Quote:
Only thing is that we seem to be suddenly faster around 5:38.


I have noticed that already while editing the recording. Seems that our metronome mark didn´t serve here too much... :roll:

Quote:
Thank you Andreas for your hospitality and the great playing (and for creating the videos !). It was a pleasure as always. To be continued


I return all that honestly! It was a real nice and inspiring time and I´m also very happy, that we have visited the Bachhaus in Eisenach together. With another Bach-fan at ones side it is a double pleasure. :!: I´m really looking forward on summer and hopefully many recording sessions in future! :D

Andrew wrote:
Quote:
Congratulations to both of you, any small slips don't detract from the overall favourable impression. Sound like an well laid-out and effective arrangement and you look like you have both developed a good mutual musical understanding.


Thank you! :D

Pianolady wrote:
Quote:
Good job! Probably there is a shift in the tempo at that one spot, because there is also a shift in the clothes...


Thank you, Monica. Indeed, you have compassed it! :idea: At thursday in the evening (nearly at six o´clock pm) we were too tired and we wanted still to go to a nice restaurant nearby (with good Croatian food, btw), so we decided to record the last two pages on friday in the morning. But we were sure our metronome mark will save us from a tempo difference to the recording of the day before. But life seems to be nothing than a complete error... :lol:

Musical_md wrote:
Quote:
How FUN! Listening to that just makes me feel wonderful inside. I was completely transported beyond the medium of the piano and experienced it nearly as in the concert hall.


Thank you, Eddy, for me that´s a wonderful a valuable compliment. :D I like, if I reach the aim to (re)produce a symphonic sound on the piano respective if I succeed in imitating other instruments (like a horn or a flute or whatever).

Quote:
I must get a copy of that and do it with my son.


There should be one on imslp.org, I think, if not, it will be a pleasure to me to scan one for you.

Quote:
I would have wished for more dynamic contrast at certain times, especially in the development,


I agree to that, we still felt not so sure with the development as the piece in summary wasn´t too well prepared.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:20 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
musicusblau wrote:
It´s a great pleasure to play with you, Chris! I thank you for the collaboration and the great days with good thoughts and talks, B&B and "43"! And not to forget our inspiring visit to the Bachhaus in Eisenach! Thank you for having been here and I´m looking forward for the completion of this symphony-arrangement in summer!

Likewise ! I'l make sure we have plenty supply of beer and "43". It occurred to me that the 3 great B's are not Bach, Beethoven and Brahms, but rather Bach, Bier & Bratwurst. I imagine old JSB would agree to that :lol:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:28 am
Posts: 1250
Location: Springfield, Missouri, USA
Isn't "42" the answer to every question according to The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy? You guys have the wrong number!

_________________
Eddy M. del Rio, MD
"A smattering will not do. They must know all the keys, major and minor, and they must literally 'know them backwards.'" - Josef Lhevinne


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:55 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
musical-md wrote:
Isn't "42" the answer to every question according to The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy? You guys have the wrong number!

Dammit, now he tells us :roll:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Techneut wrote:
Quote:
I'l make sure we have plenty supply of beer and "43".


So we will be very inspired. :D

Quote:
It occurred to me that the 3 great B's are not Bach, Beethoven and Brahms, but rather Bach, Bier & Bratwurst. I imagine old JSB would agree to that :lol:


Sure, he would have agreed, he was a good boy. :) :wink:

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 302
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
techneut wrote:
musical-md wrote:
Isn't "42" the answer to every question according to The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy? You guys have the wrong number!
Dammit, now he tells us :roll:
Yes, you do have the wrong number, but 42 is wrong too. Where Bach is involved, a more appropriate number would be 48.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
rainer wrote:
techneut wrote:
musical-md wrote:
Isn't "42" the answer to every question according to The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy? You guys have the wrong number!
Dammit, now he tells us :roll:
Yes, you do have the wrong number, but 42 is wrong too. Where Bach is involved, a more appropriate number would be 48.


Are you thinking of the 24+24 preludes and fugues of the two book of WTC? Otherwise the cross sum of the letters of his name is 2+1+3+8=14 and there are a lot of other possibilities to play with numbers, f.ex. the cross sum of his whole name is 152, but all this has nothing to do with 48.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:31 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 302
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
musicusblau wrote:
rainer wrote:
Where Bach is involved, a more appropriate number would be 48.
Are you thinking of the 24+24 preludes and fugues of the two book of WTC?
Yes, they are often collectively referred to as "the 48 preludes and fugues" or even just "the 48".


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:10 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
rainer wrote:
Yes, they are often collectively referred to as "the 48 preludes and fugues" or even just "the 48".

Learning all the time ...............

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:28 am
Posts: 1250
Location: Springfield, Missouri, USA
rainer wrote:
musicusblau wrote:
rainer wrote:
Where Bach is involved, a more appropriate number would be 48.
Are you thinking of the 24+24 preludes and fugues of the two book of WTC?
Yes, they are often collectively referred to as "the 48 preludes and fugues" or even just "the 48".
Also as the Old Testament of Pianism.

_________________
Eddy M. del Rio, MD
"A smattering will not do. They must know all the keys, major and minor, and they must literally 'know them backwards.'" - Josef Lhevinne


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:35 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
Really :!:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Absolutely! :!: I always have considered them as the Bible of pianism.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:32 pm
Posts: 499
Location: Connecticut, USA
Hmm, Chris, is it just me or do people seem to have missed your sarcasm here? Yesterday, I was going to mention something about how Captain Obvious would have enjoyed this conversation, but then thought better of it. Oops, there I go putting my foot in it again :mrgreen:

_________________
Movie Blog: http://www.criticsloft.com
Classical Music Web Site: http://www.critics-ear.com
Youtube Piano Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/Chopin849?feature=mhee


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:52 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
Hehe.... sarcasm, me ? Wouldn't dream of it :mrgreen:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:11 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:07 pm
Posts: 693
Location: Carbondale, IL
Hi Andreas,

I had a listen to yours and Chris's performance, nice work! I think this is the classical piece that everybody has heard of, perhaps aside from the nutcracker :lol: . I think my sister use to have this on her phone as a ringtone (the strings version no doubt :)).

I agree with your statement, that for three hours for practice and recording the work done was worth a post!

Now to listen to your Vyserhad.. 8)

Riley

_________________
"I don't know what music is, but I know it when I hear it." - Alan Schuyler
Riley Tucker


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:48 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Pianoman342 wrote:
Quote:
I had a listen to yours and Chris's performance, nice work! I think this is the classical piece that everybody has heard of, perhaps aside from the nutcracker :lol: . I think my sister use to have this on her phone as a ringtone (the strings version no doubt :)).


I´m sure, this must sound like original strings on your sisters mobile phone! :lol: :wink: Concerning the level of well-knownness the Nutcracker is equal to the g-minor-symphony, but I think, the g-minor is much more profound!

Quote:
I agree with your statement, that for three hours for practice and recording the work done was worth a post!


I´m glad. It´s not perfect (mainly in synchronization), but worth a listen, I think.

I also will listen to your new recordings as soon as possible. See you!

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:45 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
I finally remembered to put this on the site :idea:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:26 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:27 pm
Posts: 1842
Location: Sweden
Great playing! Enjoyed every second of it.

_________________
Pianist profile of Robert


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Thanks, Chris, for having put it up, and thank you for your kind comment, Robert. :D

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:01 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:48 pm
Posts: 2001
Location: U.S.A.
Hi Chris and Andreas,

Another fine collaboration! I just watched the video. You played with clean articulation of touch, phrased very well, used judicious pedal, and were in coordination throughout. The performance was quite expressive too, and although controlled, had a certain freedom as well. Congratulations on this achievement!

David

_________________
"Interpreting music means exploring the promise of the potential of possibilities." David April


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:11 am
Posts: 489
Location: Lyon, France
Beautiful work, especially if we account for the small number of rehearsals ! The arrangement sounds very nice, too. Congratulations,

_________________
François
"Je préfère ce qui me touche que ce qui me surprend"
François Couperin (1668-1733)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:18 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9581
Location: Netherlands
Thanks David and Francois for your kind comments. Just imagine what might have emerged with proper rehearsal and more generous recording time :wink:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mozart, KV 550, Allegro molto, four hands with Chris!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:51 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Dear David and Francois,
thank you very much for your kind and encouraging comments. I have listened back to our recordings on a self-burned DVD-Audio the last days and I feel it to be a difference like day and night compared with mp3. Yes, there are some small slips, but musically it comes out quite well, I think, and at least it was a huge pleasure to play it. :)

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 1 hour


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group