Barber songs, awkward fingering for bell effects

jlr43 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:14 am

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I do have the whole piece memorized now.

Nice. That certainly is an impressive achievement in itself, particularly given the complexity of this music.

techneut · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:21 am

pianolady wrote:

Awww, you guys.

Guess I won't get any encouragement here.

We are encouraging you - to pick a less devilish piece. I'm not saying you can't play it, just that I think it's too risky for a competition. Keep in mind that it is an amateur competition, and it's supposed to be fun. This one's not only extremely difficult (I've cut my teeth on it too in the past) but also very vulnerable, and there is no repose, no time to think. All the hard work could be easily voided by a couple of slips or a memory lapse. But ok, if you want to live dangeously, go for it !

pianolady · **Joined:** Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm **Posts:** 7997

techneut wrote:

pianolady wrote:

Awww, you guys.

Guess I won't get any encouragement here.

We are encouraging you - to pick a less devilish piece. I'm not saying you can't play it, just that I think it's too risky for a competition. Keep in mind that it is an amateur competition, and it's supposed to be fun. This one's not only extremely difficult (I've cut my teeth on it too in the past) but also very vulnerable, and there is no repose, no time to think. All the hard work could be easily voided by a couple of slips or a memory lapse. But ok, if you want to live dangeously, go for it !

How do you know? I never told anyone about this.

techneut · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:12 pm

I do not "know", I'm just putting two and two together ;-)

rainer · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:29 pm

pianolady wrote:

How do you know? I never told anyone about this.

Not explicitly, but you enigmatically said it was "for 'that' occasion". Don't be surprised if everyone jumps to the right conclusion.

pianolady · **Joined:** Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm **Posts:** 7997

I do not remember everything I've written several days ago.....

I only have to worry about this piece if I make it passed the first round, which probably won't happen anyway so I should be okay. I'm still practicing my fingers off, though...

musical-md · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:08 pm

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I'm still practicing my fingers off, though...

You go girl!

techneut · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:50 am

pianolady wrote:

I only have to worry about this piece if I make it passed the first round, which probably won't happen anyway so I should be okay. I'm still practicing my fingers off, though...

Just in case you pass the second round too, you could consider preparing this for the final round: http://youtu.be/xyPAXzkxCf8 :mrgreen:

pianolady · **Joined:** Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm **Posts:** 7997

Phew, I thought that was going to be another banana video....

techneut wrote:

Just in case you pass the second round too, you could consider preparing this for the final round: http://youtu.be/xyPAXzkxCf8 :mrgreen:

Oh sure, no problem! :wink:

techneut · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:31 pm

pianolady wrote:

Phew, I thought that was going to be another banana video....

Unfortunately there don't seem to be any new ones right now... Will post as soon as I find one

pianolady wrote:

Oh sure, no problem! :wink:

Should be a piece of cake after Rach/Mendelssohn. Better get started....

rainer · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:51 pm

What I was going to suggest was to throw in a little devilish Ravel.
Could VL possibly be playing this as an encore to the Mend-Rach, not having had time to change out of her sylph costume?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBgwk98ZPuI

pianolady · **Joined:** Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm **Posts:** 7997

I usually like her, but yes that dress is hideous. Oh well, if I had half her talent, I wouldn't care what I wore, either....

hanysz · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:43 am

jlr43 wrote:

this would seem like it would be at least a relatively brisk tempo ("Allegro" though "non troppo")...

It's probably slower than you think. The singer often has a syllable for each semiquaver. Try speaking the words in time: it will give you a good feel for how relaxed those bell sounds should be.

rainer · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:48 am

hanysz wrote:

Try speaking the words in time: it will give you a good feel for how relaxed those bell sounds should be.

Quite so, and the fact that a metronome marking (of 84) is supplied also helps to take some of the guesswork out of interpreting "Non troppo allegro".

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