Piano Society
Free Classical Keyboard Recordings
It is currently Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:16 am

All times are UTC - 1 hour




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 49 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: New Composer - Inner Version
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:45 pm
Posts: 62
Location: Phoenix, AZ
musical-md wrote:
Well this is sounding more and more like an algorhythmic process or function-based procedure. Perhaps what we need is code-breaking, rather than musical analysis.


Ha! We composers do tend to fall in love our techniques, but I don't think he's going "New Age Xenakis" on us quite yet!
Best -
Glenn


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: New Composer - Inner Version
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:47 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:22 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Bath, UK
glenn wrote:
The last 50-60 years, "process" music has become quite common. First with total serialism, and then, with minimalism, process music went mainstream. Probably a majority of the composers I meet use some sort of process to generate their music. Some are mathematical, some are not so much. They all use some sort of formula. The best use their process to generate material or a "first draft" and then use their intuition and technique to shape the result into a musical work. I have used processes for most of my career. In a sense, using improvisation as a first draft is also a process, albeit a rather organic one. At some point, all composition is a process of some sort: Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, whatever. The real art comes in molding the music. Be mindful of some of the reservations I expressed concerning timing and momentum. If these are "process" errors, they need to be refined.


Yes this is true, *however* the process I've invented is extremely powerful. To my knowledge, my technique has never been used before 2009 - I'm still stunned that it hasn't, but I've been searching for 2 years and yet to find any evidence.


glenn wrote:
How to make a living is the cross all composers bare. Most make their living by playing, teaching, copying, or even administrating. Very few make a living composing. What you are doing online is really no different than teaching private lessons or classes. You might make more if you actually give advise online, sort of a virtual master class. You have a right to charge what the market will bare. Good luck.


Well yeah I've written a guide to my technique in the forum, but you still seem to be missing the point. Don't assume that every composition method has already been discovered, and don't assume that some composition methods aren't very powerful indeed.

Sorry if I'm being slightly abrupt, it's just that I stumbled on this technique purely by chance, spent the last 2 years developing it, spent the last week or two working flat out on a clear and easy to read guide, and you dismiss it as though it's nearly worthless even though you have no idea what the technique is (!).

I've offered you a completely free forum invite which won't be available in about a week's time, I'm puzzled why you are resistant to take up the offer?


glenn wrote:
The generation process is not particularly important, except if it LIMITS you musically.


The process doesn't provide any limitations in practice, and you'll change your mind completely about it not being important once you read about the technique.

glenn wrote:
What I have found with processes is that they tend to have boundaries within which they normally operate. After a while, those boundaries become tedious to even non-musicians. If you can use your process to generate creative OPPORTUNITY, you will be alright. But be careful, as you seem to be falling into a bit of a rut. It is best not to take your processes too seriously. Keep at it, you have obvious talent and enthusiasm.


I'm not saying any more about the technique now Glenn, it's your loss if you don't take up a very generous free invite. :P

_________________
Chris Gibbs (Inner Version)
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/InnerVersion


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: New Composer - Inner Version
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:22 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Bath, UK
For those interested, the full guide to my composition technique is now available for free (no forum registration required):

The technique, part 1 (inversion)
The technique, part 2 (synthesis)
The technique, part 3 (retrograde inversion)
The technique, part 4 (advanced inversion & composition)

_________________
Chris Gibbs (Inner Version)
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/InnerVersion


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: New Composer - Inner Version
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:28 am
Posts: 1250
Location: Springfield, Missouri, USA
<Post moved to your new thread on the Composing forum>

_________________
Eddy M. del Rio, MD
"A smattering will not do. They must know all the keys, major and minor, and they must literally 'know them backwards.'" - Josef Lhevinne


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 49 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4

All times are UTC - 1 hour


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group