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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:54 am 
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Ever since I saw that movie about Schumann, I couldn't get "Widmung" out of my head. So I video-recorded it! :lol:
However, this version is strictly Schumann's; not Liszt's arrangement, which one day I would like to learn but do not have time right now. So I'm sorry about that. If this isn't good enough, then I'll take it down until I learn the other version.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vO4Frn6s70

Here is the mp3, which is the same audio file as in the video: Schumann - Widmung

The second piece up here is just a little Granados piece. I've been quietly re-doing/replacing some of my Granados recordings and this one was up at the top of the pile. But it's just so darn cute that I thought I put it up here in case someone wants to hear one of Granados' charming 'youth' pieces. It's not as easy as sounds, though....

Granados - Cuentos de la Juventud, 10. Marche

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:01 pm 
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Well done. And a nice idea to record by candlelight, if the repertoire is suitable like here.
The Granados piece is cute but could maybe have a little more youthful abandon. It sounds just a touch too
measured IMO.

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techneut wrote:
Well done. And a nice idea to record by candlelight, if the repertoire is suitable like here.
The Granados piece is cute but could maybe have a little more youthful abandon. It sounds just a touch too
measured IMO.


Thank you. I like candlelight.

I think this Granados is as good as I can get it, plus it is a march so my goal was to keep it steady.

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:09 pm 
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Hi Monica,

I watched the Schumann video. The melody is sensitively played throughout and the pedalling generally nice and even. My only suggestions for improvement would be that the overall pulse seems just slightly unsteady to me in places (slight rushings) Also, although you do differentiate the melody and accompaniment well enough, you could think about making it even lighter and more ethereal. These are minor nits though. Nicely played overall, and good-quality video too.

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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Thank you, Joe. In this instance, I am glad you caught my "slight rushing" because I was simply following the markings in the score. There are a couple accelerandos.

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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Hi Monica,

I listened to your Schumann's Widmung and have good things to say of your performance. Namely, it sounded nice :) the tempo was even and the only thing I could say for criticism is (and this is IMO) the spacing between the first section and the threshold of the next around :59 - 1:00 I would have liked a longer pause.

About your Cuentos de la Juventud recording, contrary to what Chris said, I actually liked the pulse the way as you played it. This piece reminds me a lot of the Marcha Militar duet you recorded a few months ago, not the Lento March but the Allegretto that features a similar clashing minor second interval. Strange, though it brings to my mind the image of a conquistador on horseback :P

Also, the new banner at the top of the page looks nice :)

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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Thank you for sharing your ideas, Riley.

Nothing really pops into my head with that Granados piece, but I know I move around a lot when playing it. Real silly stuff that I just can't help and why I'll never video record this one.... :oops: :oops:

Glad you like the banner. Chris and I will be changing it periodically. I'd like to make a game of it somehow, so keep a look out.... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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techneut wrote:
The Granados piece is cute but could maybe have a little more youthful abandon. It sounds just a touch too measured IMO.

The Schumann too, for my taste. Have you listened to this sung? (There are of course many versions on YouTube.) There's a sort of exaltation to many of Schumann's lieder, a feeling of being almost out of control...

I too like the candlelight :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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hanysz wrote:
techneut wrote:
The Granados piece is cute but could maybe have a little more youthful abandon. It sounds just a touch too measured IMO.

The Schumann too, for my taste. Have you listened to this sung? (There are of course many versions on YouTube.) There's a sort of exaltation to many of Schumann's lieder, a feeling of being almost out of control...

I too like the candlelight :-)


Yes, I have heard it sung. But I like playing it in a more introspective manner, which makes it more tender and romantic. Playing it like it is sung makes it sound so German! :lol:

Thanks for watching, Alexander. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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Hi Monica,

I just listened to both pieces. I had always been sort of neutral toward Widmug, but with your performance here, I'm more drawn to the piece now than previously. It's a compliment on your playing. That little Schubertian reference to Ave Maria toward the end used to strike me as a bit odd, but in your recording it blends in quite well. Liszt wrote an arrangement of this piece as well. Is it something you'd want to play? Then you'd have both versions!

The little Granados piece was delightful too.

I notice that in general your playing seems more relaxed now. Do you sense that too?

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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Thank you again, David!
Yes, I do know the Liszt arrangement of Widmung but haven't really worked on it yet. I might put it on my 'to do' list - I'm not quite sure yet.

That's very nice that you think I sound more relaxed. I don't feel relaxed; I'm still pretty nervous when I record. So much so that I usually lose a pound or two. But you've given me something to think about...

Thank you again! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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pianolady wrote:
That's very nice that you think I sound more relaxed. I don't feel relaxed; I'm still pretty nervous when I record. So much so that I usually lose a pound or two. But you've given me something to think about...


You just gave me a new advertising angle for piano students. "Learn the piano and loose weight." Maybe I can even get a regular show on PBS.

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RSPIll wrote:
pianolady wrote:
That's very nice that you think I sound more relaxed. I don't feel relaxed; I'm still pretty nervous when I record. So much so that I usually lose a pound or two. But you've given me something to think about...


You just gave me a new advertising angle for piano students. "Learn the piano and loose weight." Maybe I can even get a regular show on PBS.

Scott


Yes, the new diet and exercise program. All you have to do is wake up, drink a little coffee, warm up your fingers on the keys, press the record button, and then desperately try for the next four hours to get a relatively error-free recording! Magnify that by 10 times if you're making a video!! :lol:

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{I think that I meant "lose", not "loose" since most excess weight is seldom tight (though ones pants may be). I guess that one could lose loose weight. I'm going to stop rambling now.}


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Don't worry, I always get those two words mixed up too. Really think I just got lucky here because I was typing fast.

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 Post subject: Re: Schumann-Widmung (video) and a little Granados
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Hi Monica,
I have listened to the "Widmung". I really like these arrangements of the Songs of "Myrthen", op. 25, by Clara Schumann and I have played some of them, too. You play it absolutely properly, may be here and there you could think about the little dotted rhythm in the chords of accompaniment, but that´s no big deal (no reason for to re-record it IMHO).

By the way, which film about Clara Schumann have you seen? Was it the one with Nastasja Kinski? I have visited the Schumann-house in Leipzig some month ago and it was impressive to see that environment Schumann has created some of his works during four years (1840-44). Also the book "Schumanns Schatten" by Peter Härtling was a very interesting lecture, but I don´t know, if it´s translated into English.

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Yes, I have heard it sung. But I like playing it in a more introspective manner, which makes it more tender and romantic. Playing it like it is sung makes it sound so German!


I really couldn´t recommend to a half or quarter german or so to make it sound German, that would be too boring! :lol:


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You just gave me a new advertising angle for piano students. "Learn the piano and loose weight." Maybe I can even get a regular show on PBS.


But don´t take me as an example for garantueed success! :lol:

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You just gave me a new advertising angle for piano students. "Learn the piano and loose weight." Maybe I can even get a regular show on PBS.


But don´t take me as an example for garantueed success! :lol:


There is always PhotoShop. :wink:

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musicusblau wrote:
Hi Monica,
I have listened to the "Widmung". I really like these arrangements of the Songs of "Myrthen", op. 25, by Clara Schumann and I have played some of them, too. You play it absolutely properly, may be here and there you could think about the little dotted rhythm in the chords of accompaniment, but that´s no big deal (no reason for to re-record it IMHO).

By the way, which film about Clara Schumann have you seen? Was it the one with Nastasja Kinski? I have visited the Schumann-house in Leipzig some month ago and it was impressive to see that environment Schumann has created some of his works during four years (1840-44). Also the book "Schumanns Schatten" by Peter Härtling was a very interesting lecture, but I don´t know, if it´s translated into English.


Hi again, Andreas. :)
Thank you! I know you've 'reminded' me about my dotted rhythms before so thanks for that too. Sometimes, one can get lazy if there is no teacher to help with these sort of things.
Anyway, the movie I watched is called "Song of Love" and stars Katharine Hepburn. It's an old black/white movie but it touched me somehow - I wasn't expecting to like it so much.

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You just gave me a new advertising angle for piano students. "Learn the piano and loose weight." Maybe I can even get a regular show on PBS.


But don´t take me as an example for garantueed success! :lol:


Me, neither! Yes, I lose weight when I'm recording, but afterwards I am starving and then go right to the kitchen and eat the left-over pizza. :lol:

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Oh, Andreas, I meant to add to this to my other posting....

Do you have any photos of your visit to Robert and Clara Schumann's home?

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Yes, of course, after my visit to Leipzig in january I had made a topic with "pictures of Leipzig", but no one has shown any interest, so I have deleted it after while then.
If you like, I can post some pictures of Schumann-house when I´m back from vacancies.

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You just gave me a new advertising angle for piano students. "Learn the piano and loose weight." Maybe I can even get a regular show on PBS.


But don´t take me as an example for garantueed success! :lol:


There is always PhotoShop. :wink:


That´s good, because you would have to make an unnoticable use of it! :lol:

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Yes, of course, after my visit to Leipzig in january I had made a topic with "pictures of Leipzig", but no one has shown any interest, so I have deleted it after while then.
If you like, I can post some pictures of Schumann-house when I´m back from vacancies.


Yes, I would like that very much! I am sorry that I missed your other Leipzig photos. Maybe you can post them again, as well? Especially if you and your family are in the photos. I love seeing PS members in photos or videos doing something other than playing piano. :)

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Yes, I would like that very much! I am sorry that I missed your other Leipzig photos. Maybe you can post them again, as well? Especially if you and your family are in the photos. I love seeing PS members in photos or videos doing something other than playing piano. :)


O.k., I will post a selection, when I will be back at home. It was an excursion of my Musikleistungskurs, so my family is not in the photos. Of course, I may not publish photos of my pupils here, but I will try to find some with the Schumann- and Bach-museum f.ex. and may be with myself in it.

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The Schumann playing was very nice. Generally I am pretty neutral to Schumann, but I have never heard this piece before without a singer...it's very nice. Your melody has very strong presence throughout the performance.
Have you accompanied much Schumann as well?

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Hello Monica, the Granados is different than his other marches, but I like it. I really think this one would sound great with orchestration - the elements are there.
Your Widmung was an endearing interpretation of this sentimental piece. I agree with all the praise that has been given...

I love the use of candles or dim lighting in a music room, it adds an excellent 19th century salon effect. I have dimmers on the chandelier and pole lamp beside my piano room, and like indirect lighting when it comes to the piano, even for reading music. I don't use a stand lamp any more, but if you're intent on using one for video, try adding dimmer at the outlet end to "enhance the romance with little finance." :P The room and pages seem too bright. Since lamps and candles have different color temperatures, it would be difficult to get both color correct on the video. Using a tungsten lamp instead of a halogen might give a better color balance. The mysticism and artistic motif would be enhanced if the light source was supplied only by candles in the room. The keyboard, fingers, and face would be luminescent against a dark background, just like a Georges de la Tour painting. This is one of my favorite lighting effects. You will have to fiddle with the exposure and white balance settings to dial in the desired dramatic effect on the camera, but it's worth a try next time. I haven't done a video, but have taken pictures with this similar technique.

BTW, your video would make a wonderful ad for Yankee Candle (A chain of candle stores here in New England:) I think they would supply you a lifetime supply of candles if you approached them. :D

Bravo Monica, for your creative spirit. You always surprise us with something new every time....

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The Schumann playing was very nice. Generally I am pretty neutral to Schumann, but I have never heard this piece before without a singer...it's very nice. Your melody has very strong presence throughout the performance.
Have you accompanied much Schumann as well?


Thank you, Rich. No, I have not accompanied much Schumann...at least I don't remember...maybe I've accompanied my dad on a Schumann piece.

@George - Thank you! I know my piano light is very bright compared to the candlelight but I never thought of putting it on a dimmer - that's a great idea! If I find another piece that I want to video-record with candles, I'll fool around more with the lighting. (think I will contact Yankee Candle :lol: ) (we've got them here too)

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