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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:37 pm 
I'll listen to the art of Martha Argerich next week in Hamburg :D
Then I'll tell you about my experience...
Unfortunately nothing from Chopin, but a lot of other nice things


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Lucky Lars! What are these other nice things?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:51 am 
Martha Argerich, Klavier and
Lilya Zilberstein, Klavier

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Fantasie f-Moll KV 608 (2 Klaviere)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Andante mit Variationen KV 501 (vierhändig)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Sonate B-Dur KV 186c (vierhändig)
Robert Schumann: Andante und Variationen B-Dur op. 46 (2 Klaviere)
Dmitri Schostakowitsch: Concertino a-Moll op. 94 (2 Klaviere)
Johannes Brahms: Variationen über ein Thema von Haydn op. 56b (2 Klaviere)
Darius Milhaud: Scaramouche op. 165b (2 Klaviere)

Moll - minor
Dur - major


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I'll listen to the art of Martha Argerich next week in Hamburg :D
Then I'll tell you about my experience...
Unfortunately nothing from Chopin, but a lot of other nice things


Lars, which day, which location and time in Hamburg? Still tickets available?
Would be a 2 hours drive only for me...

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yeh, well okay, argerich mite not be the best pianist of all time...of course how can anyone be compared to liszt, bach (woh i wish i could hear him play his own pieces), rachmaninov....has anyone heard recordings of debussy playing his own music? its funny because he totally disregards his own markings haha :lol: obviously he can cos he's debussy and its his compositionfs


there has been told me that rachmaninoff couldn't play his ossia from rach 3 hahahaha

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@ MindenBlues:

Donnerstag, 02.11.06, 19.30 Uhr
Laeiszhalle, Großer Saal

There are still tickets available, e.g. at ticketonline dot de


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Donnerstag, 02.11.06, 19.30 Uhr
Laeiszhalle, Großer Saal

There are still tickets available, e.g. at ticketonline dot de


Thanks, but we are on the Isle of Ruegen this day, that's too far away for me (I hoped it is Saturday so we could have an intermediate stop on the way back home).

Schade für mich, jedoch wünsche ich Dir einen wunderschönen Argerich-Abend!

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there has been told me that rachmaninoff couldn't play his ossia from rach 3 hahahaha


That's gotta be b/s. The ossia isn't that difficult, and if he could play the rest of the concerto, he could surely have played the ossia if he wanted to.

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hmzz I heard that the ossia needs to be played in the same tempo as the concerto. Most pianist don't do that. I only know that wibi soerjadi does that.

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Well, if you play the ossia cadenza, that is the climax of the first movement. If you take the opening of the concerto at the tempo Rachmaninoff took it, then playing the ossia cadenza at the same tempo would probably sound like musical nonsense. (But then again, if you can pull it off in a convincing manner, all the more power to you.)

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I ask the guy which told me that.

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there has been told me that rachmaninoff couldn't play his ossia from rach 3 hahahaha


haha thats funny!


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wmgan wrote:
Well, if you play the ossia cadenza, that is the climax of the first movement. If you take the opening of the concerto at the tempo Rachmaninoff took it, then playing the ossia cadenza at the same tempo would probably sound like musical nonsense. (But then again, if you can pull it off in a convincing manner, all the more power to you.)


what do you mean with musical nonsense? its different but it will sound good. I got the version of wibi soerjadi playing it on the tempo.

(I will ask the guy in a few days)

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Richter and Gould.

Richter because he is the one that interpretes a piece as it should be, but not in the sense of boring, unimpressive, score-following style that some people tend to fall in, trying to perfect a piece while perfectly following the score is playing it wrong. Richter can let a piece sound as it should be, and at the same time put in his great knowlegde and power. Some recordings are just stunning.

Gould was the master of Bach. Although his recordings are very unusual and will sound weird to those who don't know them well, I think his playing is very well and especially his Bach is of extraordinary quality. Never heard anyone like him after him. He is the direct opposite of Richter (almost), and that's why I like them both.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:53 pm 
Well my favourites are Vladimir Ashkenazy, Nikolai Demidenko and Lang Lang. The first two because I think they do Rachmaninov really, really, really, really well and I'm a big Rachmaninov nut :) And the last one because, well, he's just amazing. I love the energy of Lang Lang's performances.


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