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 Post subject: How to remember?!
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:46 pm 
It has happend all of us. We have found our minds travel through the musical nature regardless of our will. We have heard overwhelming music created in our heads, we have seen the texture surpase before our eyes. But when it is time to remeber, our mind fails us and there is no one who will ever know about what music we have created...

So my question is, how to remember the music one creates?

"Hur ska man komma ihåg alltså..."


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:39 am 
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And you are from Sweden ;).

Well, record it the moment you get the idea. That is how I do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:39 pm 
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I sometimes get great ideas for improvisationary pieces, but I can only play them by at the spot. I don't have enough time to write them all down. So I could record them yes. But then? How to convert recordings in sheetmusic? I don't have that great pitch.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:32 pm 
Record it at spot? How do you mean? Hymn them or...?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:01 am 
I'm very lucky, because if I play something I like, I can remember it until I write it down. The main theme for a Tango I wrote came to me a year before I wrote it down!

However, you should always keep a sketch book near your piano. This way, if you play something, just grab it and write it down.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:09 pm 
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when I want to write it down I have very much trouble with writing. I can read as the best but write down.... Has someone a tip for my that I can easy write down the stuff I composed?

what was the trick of the famous composers?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:27 pm 
When I have to write quickly down I just write the carricatyre of the song. I mean that I don't write every specific trill and stuff like that. I just write simplified melody and some chords. Then it is easy to bring back to mind. Alltough I noticed when you do the above will you never forget the piece.

I find this very usefull.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:38 pm 
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I believe there are keyboards which can be connected to your computer, and when you play something, the computer will write down the notes itself.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:56 pm 
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yeah i go a yamaha keyboard with midi and my computer with midi but I haven't got enough tones on my keyboard so it won't work ;) And I don't like keyboard

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:40 pm 
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One composer [I don't remember who exactly] said:
"Every composer knows the pain of forgetting unwritten ideas"
On Friday I have been in a shop. Queue was long. Unfortunately - I'd got brillant idea suddenly.
I found great technique for this. You try to think about this as an air in opera: you find words for the melody and remember it. Then you have to think about the words and the melody comes out!
[Moreover, if words are OK, you can write a song :lol: ]


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 Post subject: Friedrich
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:35 am 
There's one time i have a good idea, a jazz melody, and i got it when i was walking home, so, i was afraid to forgoten... and i start to singer in my head... you kow..... so made variations of the theme, so when i finale reach home. i only have to play it on the piano and wrote on the Sibelius program.
So my recomendation is sing the song in your head or always took a piece of paper and a pencil in your poket. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:37 am 
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Although I usually end up taping over it, I always have a videocamera recording my practice. I review it directly after. My flaws are astoundingly obvious, therefore really easy to address and fix. By faithfully using the camera, I've managed to increase my abilities from hacking up Chopin Waltzes to truly mastering Chopin Etudes, in the space of three years.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:19 am 
Yes, it's right Friedrich&me: After tons of lossen motives,
I try to EVER have near me a pen or pencil, and a piece of paper.

It was very difficult to me in the beginnings (about 1988) write that sounds in my head. With years of practice, my ear is sensitized even to quarter tones (!), so finding now the initial note it's no more difficult, and after counting in the smaller unity of rhythm that hear in the melody (or riff), so I write. Drawing the pentagram with free hand is quick and easy to me (after years, etc), with the trick to starting from the external rows, the median, and finally the 2nd and 4th (medians of externals+medians)

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Good work to all! :)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:57 pm 
Kschyschtoff wrote:
One composer [I don't remember who exactly] said:
"Every composer knows the pain of forgetting unwritten ideas"


That composer was Hector Berlioz.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:39 pm 
luckily, mostly simple tunes get stuck in my head so they're easy to remember. I also play them often on the piano before I finely right them down and build on them.


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I hate it when this happens to me! It happens way too often. Although it's obviously not how all of our favorite composers did it, using technology to record your improvisations or using a midi hookup to a computer would probably be the best thing to do.

For me, my improvisations are sometimes better than my written down compositions. I feel like what comes naturally out of my head can be better than something I have to think about a lot. Anyone else feel like this?

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