Piano Society
Free Classical Keyboard Recordings
It is currently Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:11 pm

All times are UTC - 1 hour




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 67 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Schubert, Moments musicaux, No. 2 in A flat major, Andantino
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Hello,

this is my first post.

thank you for listening,

Didier

Schubert - Op.94 no.2, Moments Musicaux in A-flat major


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:00 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
That was beautiful. I loved your phrasing and dynamics. So soothing.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Welcome!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:26 pm
Posts: 829
Location: Miami, Florida, USA
I echo what Pianolady said about your sensitive phrasing and dynamics. This is beautiful. I like the sound of your piano. What kind is it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
I am happy that you liked this beautiful music from Franz Schubert. I have played this piece for many years and tried to get it right. I am still on this way but did not want to wait still some years for sharing it here. :wink:

My piano is a Steingraeber grand.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:57 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
A good and musical performance of this affecting piece. Nice touch and dynamics, and clearly you love this piece. It is certainly more than good enough to put on the site. Yet, there are two things that bother me:

1) Your sometimes erratic tempo. You often pull the tempo about within a bar, rushing the shorter notes along. It this is intended as rubato, it is too much of a good thing.

2) There are many chords in this piece. In at least half of them, I can't hear all of the notes, especially the bass notes. I realize you make great effort fo make the top voice sing out, and that succeeds very well, but it must not lead to other notes being completely inaudible. Also, your chords are occasionally unevenly attacked (possibly related to the above, not sure if it is a structural problem of its own)

In bar 2 of the forte section (which could IMO be a bit more desperate) you leave out the second beat, creating a 2/4 bar among all the 3/4 bars. In bars 4 and 5 of that same section, you do not seem to play the A in the last chord which sounds a bit unusual. Apart from that, no mistakes I could hear. Well done !

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Well listened to ! You comments are much relevant to me.

In the patterns dotted eigth - sixteenth - eigth - dotted eigth - ..., the third note is too short at several times. I shall correct this.
Indeed, I miss a beat in bar 57, which may strengthen the urgency feeling but is not written by Schubert. The upper A of the last chord at bars 59 and 60 does not sound enough because of the weakness of my fifth finger.
I can ear all the bass notes at LH. Hence I think that you are complaining about the sounding of the bass notes of the RH chords ?


I rediscovered your site on yesterday when I was looking for other recordings from Schubert sonatas found here some years ago, by a piano teacher and performer who seems having left now. I then decided to submit my last recording of this moment musical, done the day before not in this intent. I did not expect a so careful listening, for which I thank you again.

Didier


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:11 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
Didier wrote:
I did not expect a so careful listening, for which I thank you again.
Didier

Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition :lol:

Yes we try to listen carefully to each submission, especially when it is a first one. Obviously there is not always time and opportunity to do that.

Yes, it's mainly the RH chords where notes seem to be missing. I am sure you play them, but they can't be heard - at least I can't. And as you say your dotted rhyhms need attention.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
This time, I did my best. :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:24 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
I am sure you did your best last time, too :D

This one is better in terms of touch and accuracy, and it sounds a bit more confident. At least you do not pull the tempo about, and there are hardly any mistakes. So in that repect, well done and this can certainly go on the site if you provide your biography and a photo.

However I largely have the same nags as before. Your dotted rhyhm is still weak in places (though it HAS improved), there are still may notes not audible (though less than before) and you still leave out that beat in the forte section. Best put a note in your score so that you may remember not to do that (a thing learnt the wrong wau can ge hard to relearn).

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Quote:
you still leave out that beat in the forte section


:oops: :oops: :oops:

I thought: make sound fully the RH chords and take care to the dotted rythm. I forgot the missing beat. :cry:

Well, again...

PS I send my biography to robert.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:21 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
You need not feel like you should immediately correct everything that is pointed out here. A pleasant performance can well live with a few mistakes. But this one is better still. As you sent Robert the bio I trust he will put this up the site.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:26 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Thank you again for helping me to get this better. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:50 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:27 pm
Posts: 1842
Location: Sweden
You did a very good job last time and I have put the recording up along with your biography.

I have also removed your previous recordings from this post and linked the last one from the first post in the topic. That is standard procedure if you wonder.

Again, welcome!

_________________
Pianist profile of Robert


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:31 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
This new recording is a bit better, I think, and the sound is more natural. May I suggest that it replaces my previous one ? :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Would you not be convinced by my recording on yesterday ?
Well, this one is still better ! :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:53 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
Ok - done. Sounded as beautiful as the others.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:59 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Hello all,

I prefer this new recording to my previous one. I improved my rhythm here and there. And it sounds better. I hope that you will enjoy it and would like much that it replaces my previous one. :roll:


Schubert - Moments Musicaux, Op.94, No. 2 "Andantino"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:22 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
Ok, I've replaced this, Didier. The play time is exactly the same as the previous version.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Tkank you, Monica! :)

Yes, the same play time: I have this tempo in the blood. :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Hi Didier,
this is very musically and expressively played, with much sensation like we are used of you. And the sound-quality and touch is splendid.
There are some (few) mostly rhythmically issues I would like to mention:
in bar 5 you hold the last chord too long, I think.
Has your edition no c flat in the upper voice in the bars 4 and 5? In my Henle-edition it's an octave c flat on the second last chord in bar 4 and 5. The same in bar 39, 40 and 79, 80.
Don' t you want to play a bit more the staccato-points in bar 18 following or do you consider them as hand-points?
In bar 45 the second note you play like an eigth, but it's a quarter-note.

I really like your rubati, especially in bar 34, 73, in bar 47 you become a bit more lifely (faster) with the sixteenth, in bar 88 and similar places you make wonderfully hesitations in the upper-voice, which brings interpretative colour in your performance. At the begining and similar places it's a very beautiful silence in tempo and rubati (agogic).

In summary a great performance (with small rhyhtmic imperfections), which proves a player with romantic sense behind the piano.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:48 pm
Posts: 2003
Location: U.S.A.
Achieving that "romantic sense" behind Schubert's music is very important indeed. As a composer (not unlike Beethoven's evolution in his late period), Schubert stood with one foot in Viennese Classicism with the other foot in the onset of early Romanticism. Thus he was truly a transitional composer moving toward the latter style of musical expression. I think that's what makes his music so remarkable.

_________________
"Interpreting music means exploring the promise of the potential of possibilities." David April


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Thank you very much Andreas for your detailed report from your listening and your kind words. Much useful and encouraging to me. I well agree with you about my mistakes on bars 5 and 45. I may have wanted to compensate at bar 5 for the dotted quarter instead of the doted half note played by Radu Lupu in its Decca recording (nonetheless my preferred version within the numerous ones that I have listened to) and the in-between duration chord played by Emil Gillels at the 1970 Salzburger Festspiele (Orfeo CD). Anyway I well remembered that I counted from 1 to 9 while I should have stopped to 6, what I used to do previously when I was counting. :? When I listened to my recording, I found that this stangely long chord was interesting... :roll:
The eigth instead of the quarter at bar 45 is a recurring mistake. Thank you again for pointing it out!
Yes I have a c flat at bars 4 and 5. My ears are not accurate and I cannot check on the piano at this time but I think that it is what I played. Am I wrong? :oops:

Quote:
Don' t you want to play a bit more the staccato-points in bar 18

Most performers don't. Maria Joa Pires did (DG) and it is awful... I consider them as a kind of accents.:?:

I just listened your 4 hand interpretation of the Fifth Symphony from Beethoven on Youtube, which I enjoyed a lot. For sure, you rhythm sense is much more developed that mine! :wink:
(By the way, I looked just after at the performance by the Berliner Philharmoniker conducted by Karajan, filmed by Clouzot. I must get this DVD!)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:20 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Didier wrote:
Quote:
Yes I have a c flat at bars 4 and 5. My ears are not accurate and I cannot check on the piano at this time but I think that it is what I played. Am I wrong? :oops:


No, but you play only one c flat instead of an octave. That's sure.

Quote:
musicusblau wrote:
Quote:
Don' t you want to play a bit more the staccato-points in bar 18

Most performers don't. Maria Joa Pires did (DG) and it is awful... I consider them as a kind of accents.:?:


I understand this. I think, I wouldn't play the staccato, too.

Quote:
I just listened your 4 hand interpretation of the Fifth Symphony from Beethoven on Youtube, which I enjoyed a lot.


Thank you for the compliment. :D

Quote:
(By the way, I looked just after at the performance by the Berliner Philharmoniker conducted by Karajan, filmed by Clouzot. I must get this DVD!)


I would like to have this, too, but I have the audio-recording of Karajan conducting Beethovens Fith. I dislike his tempi, which often are too fast for my taste.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Hello,

I corrected (most of ?) my mistakes. I hope that you will enjoy this recording because I made a particular effort to get it right. I displaced the piano to get the sound axis aligned with the long axis of the room. The sound is better but it's nearly impossible to walk around the piano. :wink:


Schubert - Op.94 D780, Moments Musicaux, 2. Andantino


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:38 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Hi Didier,
congratulations, this is really the best version until know, but there still are some little things, which could be improved:
1) the dotted rhythm at some places is to short (I mean the first note with the dot), f.ex.
2) You sometimes forget the melody tone in places like f.ex. bar 4, 5 and 6: c-flat in the upper voice is missing (it always concerns the upper tone on the sixteenth after the dotted eigth).
3) Three bars before the first a-major-part you don´t pay attention to the holding-bow on d-fat.
4) on the last chord (d-flat-major) before the f-sharp-minor-part there is too few of the third (f)
5) Very interesting that you play the staccato-points in the f-sharp-minor-part at the beginning. I always take pedal here and consider them just as "hand-points". I think, one shouldn´t hear them, but it sounds interesting.
6) bar12-19 of the second as-flat-major part the rhythm in the left hand is wrong:the dotted rhythm here mostly is too fast, that means the sixteenth-note comes too early, first in the bass (e-flat) than in the upper voice (e-flat).
7) the fourth and fifth bar of the second f-sharp-minor-part: here you forget the a in the upper-voice on each last sixteenth of both bars. In this part you play the staccato-notes like I do, btw (that means not audible).


I hope, my tips help you. I like your performance as usual very much, because you play so sensitively, expressively and with much soul. And the sound-quality of your recordings is the non-plus-ultra for me. It´s so clear as if I would be directly with my ear on the cabinet of your grand-piano. I think, your recordings have the most natural sound-quality on this site. Do you add any reverb or equalizer? Explain me more about the replacing of your piano. I didn´t get that completely. What dou you mean with "long axis"?

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:09 pm
Posts: 367
Location: Athens, Greece
Very expressively played. I liked your clean and intimate sound.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:19 pm
Posts: 106
Location: Germany
Very intimately played indeed, and I like it very much that way.
In some spots, however, a bit less rubato would improve the performance even more.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Thank you all for taking time for listening to this and for your kind comments.

Special thanks to Andreas for his detailed ans so accurate report. I am much confused about 2) because you already pointed this out at my previous recording and I paid much attention to it. At least during the first takes... Then my attention should have been drawn by other issues. I'm so sorry... Anyway be sure that your remarks are much valuable to me ! Regarding 4), it was not intentional. :? But I found afterwards that it could have been! :wink:

My room is approximately 9.5 m x 4.5 m and the piano is in a corner:

Image


This is a rather bad placement for recording but the most practical for the activities other than playing piano usual in a living room. For this recording I oriented the piano so that the longer axis of the room be perpendicular to lid. The best for the sound but absolutely non-practical for every day life.

Image.

Yes there is EQ for taming low frequency resonances and a bit of harshness in the 2kHz - 5 kHz band. Yes there is reverberation to give space that a so short distance recording, mandatory in such a room, cannot give.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:57 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
Ok, this is replaced.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 4:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Thank you, Didier, for your interesting and informative reply with the pictures.

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
My previous version is only 3 months old but I am in vacation now and could spend some days to work on this beloved piece.

Schubert - Moment Musical No. 2 in A-flat major


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:26 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
Ok, Didier - this is replaced.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Hi Monica,

I just downloaded the file from the link above and I got the old version, the duration of which is 6'01", while the new one has duration 6'26". I'm going to check what happens if I download from the Schubert section.

PS The duration indicated for my recording in the Moments musicaux page was well changed to 6'26" but it is still the previous 6'01" version. Here attached the new 6'26" version that I uploaded previously.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:38 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
I am very sorry, Didier - I have tried a few different things in an attempt to replace the file and it is not working. Maybe there is some kind of write-protect thing on it; I just don't know....:? I do have your current recording on my computer. I will ask Chris to help me.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:33 am
Posts: 224
That's a gorgeous Steingraeber. What model? 8)

_________________
Best regards,
Horowitzian


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:56 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
http://steingraeberpianos.com/grands/205/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:21 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
pianolady wrote:
I am very sorry, Didier - I have tried a few different things in an attempt to replace the file and it is not working. Maybe there is some kind of write-protect thing on it; I just don't know....:? I do have your current recording on my computer. I will ask Chris to help me.

I'm not sure what happened here but there were two versions of the file on the server, one having a dot too many in the filename (I once more recommend double-checking the filename before uploading !). Also they had different file permissions, which I don't understand. Anyway I have removed the old stuff and re-uploaded the file. Should be ok now.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
I have checked that it is allright now. Thank you Monica and Chris.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:11 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
techneut wrote:
I'm not sure what happened here but there were two versions of the file on the server, one having a dot too many in the filename (I once more recommend double-checking the filename before uploading !). Also they had different file permissions, which I don't understand. Anyway I have removed the old stuff and re-uploaded the file. Should be ok now.


I swear, there are no 'two dots', extra dashes, or extra spaces on my file names. And yes - I am wearing my glasses! :wink: Oh well, thank you for the help.

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:15 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
pianolady wrote:
I swear, there are no 'two dots', extra dashes, or extra spaces on my file names. And yes - I am wearing my glasses! :wink: Oh well, thank you for the help.

Never mind how much you swear, there were these two files

Code:
schubert-94-2-brest..mp3
schubert-94-2-brest.mp3


on the server. They were the same in size (so the same recording most probably) but different in permissions (which probably would make no difference for site or forum users). You must at some stage have had the double-dot version on your computer, as no dots get magically added in the process. But not to worry, these things happen.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:27 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
I'm still swearing....

See? One dot. And there is only one explanation....(aliens!)

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:57 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
pianolady wrote:
See? One dot. And there is only one explanation....(aliens!)

Yes, they're out to get you again. But that's ok, you're not really paranoid :wink:

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:37 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:38 pm
Posts: 8529
At least I am right! (ok, end of discussion - I win - sorry, Didier)

_________________
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties." ~ Frederic Chopin

my videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/monicapiano
my personal website: http://www.monicaalianello.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:53 pm 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:45 am
Posts: 9598
Location: Netherlands
pianolady wrote:
At least I am right! (ok, end of discussion - I win - sorry, Didier)

There are two rules on PS:

1) Monica is always right.
2) In the unlikely case Monica has it wrong, rule 1) applies.

_________________
Nothing is always absolutely so -- Sturgeon's law
Chris Breemer


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:45 pm
Posts: 2815
Location: Germany
Hi Didier,
wow, that´s sounds much better than all your versions before. You are improving more and more. Your rhythmic steadiness is quite perfect now!!! :!:
There only stay a few things to do, which you also will master, I´m sure:
bar 6 and 7: you play e-flat-major instead of e-flat-minor. (I know it´s only here e-flat-minor, at the parallel passages it´s always e-flat-major. The devil seems truely to be in the detail, isn´t it? :wink: )
bar 7 with pickup in the second as-major-part: you play a couple of wrong notes here respective you let out some notes of the chords.
bar 17-20 of the second as-major-part: you drop sometimes the e-flat in the bass-voice.
bar 5 of the second f-sharp-minor-part: the last sixteenth has an a in the upper voice, which is an important part of the melody. It´s not audible in your recording. I just mention this, because the melody sounds so unusual at this place (for those people, who know it very well).
Again in the last four bars you drop sometimes the e-flat in the bass voice.

If you would like to use your vacations for to do further improved versions I will give you some detailed tips on them.

You play this with a great musicality. I´m deeply impressed and I love this as much as the wonderful sound-quality of this recording. Did you choose any effect of Bricasti M7, btw?

_________________
Link to my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/musicusblau


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:33 am
Posts: 224
Didier wrote:


Thanks. It's lovely to look at and listen to! :wink:

_________________
Best regards,
Horowitzian


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:34 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Bristol, UK
I love this piece and I can tell that you do too.The return of the second subject is one of the most desperate moments in the piano repertoire for me and I can never resist the temptation to play it fortissimo even though my edition has it marked forte.I feel inspired by your playing here to make a recording of it just as soon as I have some spare time.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:10 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
My God! I've played a so long time this major chord instead of the minor one...:oops:
Thank you very much Andreas for detecting this mistake.

I took care on trying to play all the notes in the chords, but there are so many.... :wink:

Many thanks for your very accurate listening, your kind words and your help proposal. I worked hard on this piece during several days. I can't proceed any more for the moment. For changing, I just started a piece from Bach, the score of which I received on yesterday, from USA because I found it on Internet only here despite it is from an European publisher. Don't ask which one, it's a surprise. :wink:

For the reverb, it's set from Acousticas M7 Berlin hall, less opulent, so clearer, than Vienna, Amsterdam, Worchester, etc. In SIR, the stetch is set to 67%, the predelay to 20 ms and the wet level to -25 dB.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:11 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Quote:
I love this piece and I can tell that you do too.The return of the second subject is one of the most desperate moments in the piano repertoire for me and I can never resist the temptation to play it fortissimo even though my edition has it marked forte.I feel inspired by your playing here to make a recording of it just as soon as I have some spare time


Hi,

I did not see your post when I posted my answer to Andreas. Yes the return of the second subject is poignancy. My score also incates f. I may have listen too much Radu Lupu here. Arrau, Fischer,Nat, and Serkin for instance did not play a so large dynamic contrast. Thank you for this comment that will make me think further to my interpretation while waiting with much interest for listening to your one.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Schubert, Moments musicaux, No. 2 in A flat major, Andantino
PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:04 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:53 pm
Posts: 468
Location: France
Hi,

I came back to this piece 2 months ago. Here attached the result of my work. I think that it is better than my previous version currently available from PS and I hope that you will enjoy it.

Didier


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 67 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 1 hour


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group