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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY HAVE RZEWSKI'S VARIATIONS ON "THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't even remember how long I've been looking for that one!

Now I know what I'm really gonna do tonight!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS LINK!!!

*excited!*

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY HAVE RZEWSKI'S VARIATIONS ON "THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!"
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS LINK!!!

*excited!*


So, I guess I earned a dinner, at least, from you thankful people! :P :P

I am so glad you're having fun with it!


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You know what I'll be doing this weekend!

Before it all goes away.


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PJF wrote:
You know what I'll be doing this weekend!

Before it all goes away.


I'm one step ahead of you. I already downloaded everything that's terribly important to me. Now I just need to go through and find other pieces that look intresting. I've already gotten some 300 or so pdfs downloaded.

Of course... I could be interpreting your comment the wrong way entirely... and that could lead to embarassing side effects.

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Folks, this site is not going anywhere - it is MIT owned and supported - do not worry, be happy! :? :?
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Jelena wrote:
Folks, this site is not going anywhere - it is MIT owned and supported - do not worry, be happy! :? :?
Jelena


Actually... I am fairly certian that a number of these scores are not in the public domain yet. Consider this: Rzewski isn't dead yet... so how could his works be public domain?

I think that if certian publication companies were to see it, that they might actually have legal grounds to have the site shut down.

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Wait, now that website's requiring a username and password from me! What happened?? Could it be that too many people were using the site? Why do these great resources keep being taken away from us?

If anyone knows the username and password, please tell!

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Casper89 wrote:
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I hate to say it...

BUT I TOLD YOU SO! :P

I'm so glad I actually did the smart thing this time... Probably the first time in my life I can claim that. :wink:

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demonic_advent wrote:
I hate to say it...

BUT I TOLD YOU SO! :P




Good news.

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So I'm guessing that nothing can be done about this. We just lost another great resource. Its as if the world doesn't want classical music to be here!

Well, maybe IMSLP will start back up again soon...

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Hahaha - Chopinman, did you see the link that Alf (above you) posted? ISMLP is coming back. :D :D

Thanks, Alfonso.

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:D :D :D

I had completely missed the fact that alf posted a link ( and was about a lambast him for useless posting :wink: ).

Whoa, that is good news indeed. Thought I fear that once the site opens up it may well go down as thousands of people race to download its entire contents....

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techneut wrote:
:D :D :D

I had completely missed the fact that alf posted a link ( and was about a lambast him for useless posting :wink: ).


Save your cane for who decided to render gray by default the URL tag. :P

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alf wrote:
Save your cane for who decided to render gray by default the URL tag. :P

Yeah, damn phpbb weenies ! It's time we got'em right and proper for that :lol:

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techneut wrote:
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Save your cane for who decided to render gray by default the URL tag. :P

Yeah, damn phpbb weenies ! It's time we got'em right and proper for that :lol:


Nerds disregard accessibility by definition. :lol:

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alf wrote:
Nerds disregard accessibility by definition. :lol:

Yep, and there is a saying among programmers that whatever is hard to understand, should definitely remain so.

We seem to be a bit OT here though :roll:

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Oh, wow... now it makes sense...

At first I thought, "Why is he saying 'good news'?" I thought it had some kind of deeper meaning, but I guess I was just too stupid to put my mouse over the link. Haha, now I feel so dumb. Thanks for the great news though! I think I speak for all of us when I say the next 2+ months will be very long for all of us.

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!!!

MOMENT OF REALIZATION!

That website that just got password protected is actually run by a pianist from this site!

http://pianosociety.com/cms/index.php?section=638
Michael Hawley!

I'm not sure why this matters at all... but I just figured I'd share that with the world.

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That website that just got password protected is actually run by a pianist from this site!

http://pianosociety.com/cms/index.php?section=638
Michael Hawley!

I'm not sure why this matters at all... but I just figured I'd share that with the world.

It's his collection for sure, I knew that (thought not that it was THAT big). I doubt whether he actually runs it.

Mike has never been on the site nor have we ever had contact with him. A former PS admin found his website and asked Mike for his permission to copy his recordings to PS, which he granted. That must be about 2-3 years ago now.

I suppose we could ask him if we (PS) can get the logon info if we promise to keep it between us. I will send him a mail about that.

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I've sent him an email asking if PS members can get access to the site, Or alternatively, if we can replicate the scores on this site. See what he says about it. Will keep you posted.

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Have we said recently how much we appreciate your hard work, Chris? *opening arms for a big ole Nathan hug* :) and other admins, too!!!! ... *mwah, mwah mwah*

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Mike already responded and gave me the login. He does not mind that we share that in PS but he's wary that it will get out on the wide web and cause the site to be overloaded or hijacked again. It's a powerful machine at MIT but if dozens of sites start sucking all scores off it, it may not be able to cope.

I think it's best that anybody here who's interested let me know via private email and I send them the logon. I'd have to ask you the following things on behalf of Mike:

1) Keep the login to yourself. Do not pass it on to anybody, or before long all the world will
know it and we are back where we started.

2) Do be judicous with the site. Take only what you need and don't go and download everything
just for the hell of it. It may sound a nice idea but it is really a silly thing to do. There's about
15GB of data ! The more care we take with a site like this, the longer it can stay in business.

3) Please realize many scores here are copyrighted. The responsibility for download and use is
yours and yours alone.

4) If you have (or can create) any PDF's that are missing on this site, please submit them so that
we can make this site even better and more complete.

Thanks for your cooperation !

Chris

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techneut wrote:
3) Please realize many scores here are copyrighted. The responsibility for download and use is
yours and yours alone.



To say it in clear words: Please realize that if you download anything there, your IP is saved to a logfile. If a editor remarks that his copyright protected files are there, he will probably sent Mr H a cease and desist letter( if he's unlucky combined with a exorbitant financial claim :!: ) and if he wants, he can insist on getting the logfile and hand it over to the police, they will find out with the IPs who downloaded what and you'll get an unpleasant letter, too. Of course, this is the worst case scenario, and the consequences depend also on the laws of your home country but.....be prepared and don't tell you didn't knew....

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Casper89 wrote:
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3) Please realize many scores here are copyrighted. The responsibility for download and use is
yours and yours alone.



To say it in clear words: Please realize that if you download anything there, your IP is saved to a logfile. If a editor remarks that his copyright protected files are there, he will probably sent Mr H a cease and desist letter( if he's unlucky combined with a exorbitant financial claim :!: ) and if he wants, he can insist on getting the logfile and hand it over to the police, they will find out with the IPs who downloaded what and you'll get an unpleasant letter, too. Of course, this is the worst case scenario, and the consequences depend also on the laws of your home country but.....be prepared and don't tell you didn't knew....


This could happen theoretically although there is not obligation to keep or even use such a logfile. Also I believe the police wil other priorities than hunting down individuals guilty of a copyrighted download. I would not worry so much about that aspect. The future of the site is something to keep in mind though. It may help that it is not a public site.

If a publisher objects to their stuff being in this site they can only demad to remove it, not shut down the site (as I think was the case with IMSLP but the owner decide to shut down anyway).

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