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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:27 am 
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Here is a little puzzle for you to enjoy solving.

About a year ago I bought some music which came from a Catalan publisher called "La ma de Guido".
It struck me that "Guido's mother" was a pretty odd name for a publisher, but then I thought no more about it.
Some time later I became aware of my mistake, but that made matters worse; I was even less able to make the connection because, ill-educated buffoon that I am, I lacked a key piece of knowledge.
By chance I stumbled upon it yesterday, and now it all makes sense.

(a) Who is Guido?
(b) How is his mother relevant?
(c) What was my mistake?
(d) What piece of knowledge did I lack?
(e) How does it all make sense?


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Oh good - we haven't had a puzzle in awhile. Wish we had more games too! We used to have fun with that, but then everybody petered out. So anyway....


(a) Who is Guido?

--Guido of Arezzo, a medieval music theorist

(b) How is his mother relevant?

--She’s not, except for the fact that she gave birth to Guido. :lol:

(c) What was my mistake?
--Not looking on the Internet :lol:

(d) What piece of knowledge did I lack?
--That Wiki has a whole article about the Guidonian hand

(e) How does it all make sense?
--Beats me, except that the Guidonian hand was a way to teach music.

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
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Very good, Monica, top marks!

More specifically:

(c) My mistake was to assume, by analogy with Spanish "madre", that Catalan "mà" meant "mother".
In due course I smelled a rat when I saw that little logo on the front cover which looked like a dirty glove.
That made me doubt my assumption and had me going to the dictionary to look up "mà", and sure enough it means "hand".

(d) I had indeed never heard of the Guido's Hand, a gap in my musical education. I offer the fact that I don't sing as a feeble excuse.

(e) Because of the significance of Guido's Hand to the world of music, and indeed because of Arezzo's contribution to the development of music notation, it makes sense for the hand to be adopted as mascot, logo, and even label for a music publisher.

Glad you liked it.


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
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Just heard a very cute puzzle: Three logicians were at a bar. The bartender asked them: " Do all of you want beer? " One of them said " I don't know". The second one said : " I don't know".

The third one then said YES. How did he know that the other two wanted beer?


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That's easy. Being logicians they would take the question "do you ALL want beer" literally, not pertaining to themselves alone. So if the first two had not wanted beer, they both would have answered NO.

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That's easy. Being logicians they would take the question "do you ALL want beer" literally, not pertaining to themselves alone. So if the first two had not wanted beer, they both would have answered NO.


I agree with Chris :D

In Sentential Logic (smart, aren't I? 8) ) It's a Modus Tollens argument. If P then Q; not Q; therefore not P.

Q is the idea that they don't want beer

P is them having said "No," I don't want beer."

Condition P isn't true so Condition Q can't be the corollary.

So they would have to say no. But they couldn't have known until all three of them answered and nobody objected as the third person said "YES!"

Got it right, no?!

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Two negatives equal positive, so yes they all want a beer. And so do I! :)

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It boils down to simple Boolean logic, with particular reference to deMorgan's laws.

Bearing in mind that, as Chris rightly points out, each logician's answer doesn't state whether he wants beer, but whether they all do, the circumstances in which he can give each of the 3 possible answers are as follows:
"Yes": When and only when he wants beer AND knows that both others do too.
"No": When and only when he does not want beer OR knows that at least one of the others doesn't.
"I don't know": In all other circumstances.

This third answer therefore indicates (NOT "yes") AND (NOT "no"). Applying the circumstances under which "yes" and "no" may be given, this means:

(NOT(he wants beer AND he knows both others want beer)) AND (NOT(he does not want beer OR he knows at least one of the others wants no beer)).

DeMorgan's rules are that NOT(A AND B) is equivalent to ((NOT A) OR (NOT B))
and that NOT(A OR B) is equivalent to ((NOT A) AND (NOT B)).
Applying these to the above, we get:

(he does not want beer OR he doesn't know both others want beer) AND (he does want beer AND he doesn't know that at least one of the others wants no beer).

In turn, this is equivalent to:

(he doesn't know the others both want beer) AND (he wants beer) AND (he doesn't know at least one of the others doesn't want beer).

For a logician to answer "I don't know", all three parts of this proposition must be true, in particular the middle one. His "I don't know" answer therefore tells us (or at least the other logicians) that he wants beer.

The second logician now knows the first one wants beer, but doesn't know what the third one wants. Again, his "I don't know" answer indicates that he does want beer.

The third logician now knows that both the others want beer.


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Stop it ! The horse is dead already :P

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Very good, Chris and the rest! Now try this one: Arthur is looking at Betty, Betty is looking at Charles. Arthur is married: Charles is not.

Can it be deduced whether one of the three is married and looking at an unmarried one?


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I have a feeling I've seen this one before somewhere.
Yes it can.
Betty is either married or not. In both cases the answer which can be deduced is YES.
Either married Betty is looking at unmarried Charles, or married Arthur is looking at unmarried Betty.


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
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I just read the most amazing story about the composer Puccini ! One day he heard a voice singing outside his window. It was a man's voice,

expressing such beauty and feelling that Puccini was moved to the heart.When he looked out, he saw the man was a convict, who had been ordered to

mend the roads. His feet were still in irons.Puccini could not believe that a man who could sing so exquisitely, with his whole soul, could really be a

criminal. He interceded with the Queen of Italy and obtained a pardon. The condemned man was permitted to return to his wife and child, and forever

after he revered the composer with dog-like devotion.


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
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That's a nice story, Raymond! At first I thought there was going to be a joke at the end.

Speaking of jokes, riddles, puzzles...do you have a new one for us? I've got a little joke:

There was a man addicted to brake fluid. He said he could stop any time. :P

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There was a man addicted to brake fluid. He said he could stop any time.

hehe, :lol:

great pun

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Do any of you know who wrote CHOPSTICKS ? Those who don't will be most surprised !


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I think I used to know, but I've forgotten. Hmmm....thinking...
I won't cheat (this time) and look it up now.

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Hoagy Carmichael?

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A quote from Love in the Afternoon directed by Billy Wilder and starring Gary Cooper and Audrey Hepburn (1957)

"Verdi,Versini, Puccini; that’s music for an organ grinder with a monkey. But Wagner! That’s another matter entirely…"

-Michel (Ariane's boyfriend)

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The composer of chopsticks was Borodin.


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You are right, Raymond, I would never have guessed Borodin.

Good guess, Riley...

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Chopsticks (music)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For a different piece of piano music often called "Chopsticks" in the UK, see Der Flohwalzer (the "Flea Waltz").
"Chopsticks" (original name "The Celebrated Chop Waltz") is a simple, extremely well known waltz for the piano. It was written in 1877 by the British composer Euphemia Allen under the pseudonym Arthur de Lulli.[1] Allen, who was the sister of a music publisher, was supposedly only sixteen when she composed the piece, with arrangements for solo and duet.
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A group of Russian composers — Alexander Borodin, César Cui, Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, Anatoly Lyadov, and Nikolai Shcherbachov (with a modest addition by Franz Liszt) — collaboratively composed four-hand piano variations on this theme for Borodin's daughter Gania.

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A correction. Raymond, maybe you just learned something new.... :)

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This curious "toe-tapping" tune believe it or not was a grammy winner in instrumental music. Originally released as "Omkring et Flygel," that is, "Around a Piano." It has classical elements, though if being a grammy winner is a show of popularity, it is then decidely a pop song (though instrumental, most pop songs aren't right?--rare, huh!) Who wrote this song? No cheating and wiki-ing it :wink: Every time I hear his name, I laugh, because it sounds like a gag name... :lol:

For a better version than my MIDI do-up, hop on over to YouTube and see AllenDale's version :)


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I have not wiki'd anything, and I haven't listened to the music, but I'll just guess Engelbert Humperdink because of his funny name.

:?: :?:

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Engelbert Humperdink haha that is very comical. "Dink" isn't that the omneonopeoic sound of a piano?! haha.

Anyway, the answer is Danish Pianist Bent Fabric.

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I spelled his name wrong...it's Engelbert Humperdinck.


Riley wrote:
omneonopeoic sound
Wow, that is some word. I don't know it.

Riley wrote:
Anyway, the answer is Danish Pianist Bent Fabric.
Ok, I just looked him up. I do know that song.
And just now I found a video of Alley Cat that is sooooo weird!! Purrrrrfect for a Friday! :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGFBpqNBvJc

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I recently came across a most amusing musical anecdote: When the composer Myerbeer died, a fan of his wrote an elegy for him and showed it to Rossini

and wanted an honest opinion of it. After looking at the score, Rossini said:" To be perfectly honest, I think it would be better if you had died and he had written the elegy !"


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Fact about Meyerbeer: he was a taphephobic (fear of being buried alive) and left instructions that he be placed in his coffin with bells attached to his limbs for him to ring in case of premature burial.


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Just like Chopin. This fear of being buried alive was common in the 19th century. Makes me wonder how many times it actually occurred. Scary....

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Just like Chopin. This fear of being buried alive was common in the 19th century. Makes me wonder how many times it actually occurred. Scary....

Yeah.. :roll: I remember there was an unsolved mysteries episode about that about 10 years ago.. but the guy rung the bell and so it was a happy ending :D

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I think nowadays you can buy a coffin with wifi so that if you should happen to wake up from the dead you can notify the undertaker online (and in the meantime watch Youtube or something) :mrgreen:

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I think nowadays you can buy a coffin with wifi so that if you should happen to wake up from the dead you can notify the undertaker online (and in the meantime watch Youtube or something)

:lol:

Daughter of Father reads will: I'll take the deluxe casket with a built-in router (1 month subscription to broadband) and Ipad.

Daughter calls funeral company: Do you have any caskets with wifi in stock?

Funeral company assc.: no, sorry. We're out of those--too many people who we thought were dead woke up... they were asking for refunds...

Daughter: Oh, I see. Do you have anything else?

Funeral company assoc: Yeah, we've got the delux oak casket that plays the 3rd mvt. of Chopin's piano sonata no.2 (opus 35) continuosly on loop. Would you like that?

Daughter: Yes, one of those, please.

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Haha good one :lol: Reads like a Monty Python sketch.

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Haha good one Reads like a Monty Python sketch.


Thx, just building on yours :lol: I LOVE Month Python. Best show on the BBC (of course it was before my time, but they rerun it)! And their movies I've seen, The Holy Grail, Life of Brian.

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I just came across two delightful incidents: In one chapter on Richard Wagner, the author says: " The marriage of Wagner and

Cosima was a happy one. They had a common interest. They both adored Richard Wagner.. "


The other is about Brahms. Upon leaving a party, he said: " If I have neglected to insult any one, I beg him to forgive my oversight ! ".


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I knew the one about Brahms. The Wagner joke is priceless. I love a biographer who can take the mickey of his subject.

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Hi Raymond :)

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I just came across two delightful incidents: In one chapter on Richard Wagner, the author says: " The marriage of Wagner and

Cosima was a happy one. They had a common interest. They both adored Richard Wagner.. "


The other is about Brahms. Upon leaving a party, he said: " If I have neglected to insult any one, I beg him to forgive my oversight ! ".


That's a good one Raymond! I must add another composer who was... an egomaniac... so to speak. (I'll let you judge that for yourself :P )

He said,

"I have made a discovery [twelve-tone composition] which will ensure the supremacy of German music for the next 200 years."

Who was he?

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I'll guess Schoenberg??

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I'll guess Schoenberg??


Right you are!

Or as his surname's sometimes written:

Schönberg

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Some time ago I heard the joke about a young man who said to an old man," You look remarkably healthy

for a man your age. What is your secret?" The older one replied," It's because I never argue." The younger

man replied, " Oh, I bet you sometimes argue!" The older one replied, Maybe you're right ! "


I then thought of the following variant (which in mathematics might be called a "duel" version" ) : A man said

to another," I think it's alright to sometimes argue" The other replied," I disagree! "


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That's a good one Raymond. Interesting duel, though I've always thought of the term in regards to two people shooting guns at one another! :shock: The duel that you describe sounds rather harmless! :lol:

Here is a riddle, thought of this one yesterday. Why is C the best note in music?

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:03 pm 
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I'm surprised you wouldn't get this one Raymond, I thought you were the master of logic! :wink:

C is the only music note (ABCDEFG) represented in the word music!

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:14 am 
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Good one, Riley! :)
Yours was good too, Raymond, even though I don't quite get it. I think I read too much into these, and then I get confused....

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:38 pm 
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KNOW YOUR OPERAS

1--What opera is about a badly beaten up wife?

2---What opera is about parking attendants ?

3--What opera is about an enchanted unlikely event?

4---What opera is about a pig's treasure?

5---What opera is about amphibians at dusk time?

6---What opera is about a man who is sufficiently good?

7---What opera is about a French beef steak?

8---What opera is subject to a dyslexic misreading ?

9---What opera is about part of an elephant ?

10--What opera is about a treasure that belongs to me ?

11--What opera is about clowns, bows and arrows?

ANSWERS

1--The Battered Bride.

2--Car Men.

3--The Magic Fluke.

4--Das Swine Gold.

5--Twilight of the Frogs.

6--Boris Good Enough.

7--Filet Mignon.

8--Twilight of the Dogs.

9--Tuska.

10-Das Mine Gold

11-Pagli Archery.


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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:45 pm 
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the Magic Fluke.....hahaha

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
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There were two identical twins, one was named Seesharp, the other, Deeflat. Sometimes Seesharp would walk to their grandparents cottage that was 6 miles away up on a hill. Though it was small, you could see the grandparents house from where they lived. One weekend, the twin brothers' mother sent Seesharp to his grandparents house. Seesharp was instructed to go there, and if the grandparents were good and well, then simply to enjoy their company and return home at the end of the weekend. If however their grandparents were unwell, then he should wave his arms outside the house just as the sun set on Saturday. Deeflat's job was to check to see his brother did this or did not. As scheduled, Seesharp made his way to his grandparents place. On Saturday, a great fog befell the countryside. Deeflat looked to the hill to find his brother. Deeflat couldn't see anything. When he returned to his mother and father who demanded an explanation for the expression of bewilderment that rent his face, he said the following:

I couldn't see sharp!

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:30 am 
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Not bad...I'll give that joke a one-thumb up. :)

I heard another joke this weekend that cracked me up. Here it is....

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I was traveling back to my hometown and, responding to Mother Nature, decided to stop at one of those rest areas on the side of the road.

I went into the washroom. The first stall was taken, so I went into the second stall. I had just sat down when I heard a voice from the other stall.

"Hi there, how is it going?"

I am not the type to strike up conversations with strangers while sitting on the john in restrooms on the side of the road. I didn't know what to do, but finally I said, "Not bad."

Then the voice said, "So, what are you doing?"

At this point, I was starting to find the situation a bit weird, but I said, "Well, I'm just sitting here."

Voice from the other stall, "So, can I come over?"

Now I'm getting nervous and a bit worried. But decided I have to put a stop to this and so I said, "I'm a little busy right now. No you may not!

Then I heard the person, all flustered, say, "Look, I'll call you back. Every time I ask you a question, the idiot in the next stall keeps answering me!!!"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Puzzles, Jokes, Anecdotes, and Thoughts
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pianoman342 wrote:
There were two identical twins, one was named Seesharp, the other, Deeflat.
I thought this was going to turn out to be a temperament joke.
Everyone knows that Ceesharp and Deeflat simply aren't identical.
Anyone who thinks otherwise must be ... (wait for it) ... comma-tose.


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