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 Post subject: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:41 am 
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More recently it has been my livelihood. I have been playing for the Suzuki violin academy at Missouri Southern State University- and am playing a book recital- possibly two more book recitals.
I also teach four students a week. If I were more aggressive- it would be more. But, for now, I guess four is enough. I have my first adult student this year as well. Things are growing- steadily though slowly. :) I plan to go into substitute teaching as another means of income. I live with my family and don't have many bills right now- so I am working at becoming more independent.

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Location: Obamanation, unfortunately...
minor hobby for me

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Livelihood for sure. About 99% of my free time i use to practice piano, study music, read biographies of composers, and tune pianos for extra money.


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 Post subject: Nice
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It is interesting to hear how everyone is using it.

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Music is my career, and the piano is at the center of my musical world. 8)

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Ah- mine is too, along with flute. :)

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 Post subject: A Piano for sale and Criticism wanted
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Hello-
I have seen this add, and just now have emailed the people a question. I am not even sure if they're in my area or not, but they are selling this piano. While I would love to own a grand, I am having a hard time wanting to get rid of my mom's current piano that I use to teach on. However, as of now I am not in my own space and therefore have to comply to her wishes and wants. I love her upright Kimball, though I also love a piano of my own. So, it's a tough place I am in! We already have another piano in our garage, because my sister got an old sturdy upright for free that my brother is working on. Anyway, that was a long story, but here is the add from craigslist.
Can you tell me what you know about this piano?

If I don't get it myself, I may suggest it to my new boss and see if it's something she's interested in for the school.

thanks

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/msg/1296076893.html

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$700 for a large grand like that? Something is fishy there, I think. I have never heard of a Hardman piano, though. You should check it out in Larry Fine's Piano Book.

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Pianos made under the Hardman name were manufactured by Aeolian, a company which is no longer in business (closed in 1985). The pianos from its New York plant were okay most of the time, but the instruments made in their Tennessee plant were junk.

I'm with Ms. Monica, I'd be sure to have a capable technician check this piano out before handing over the cash. I would be particularly careful that the piano has not been subjected to humidity and temperature extremes - the finish of the piano may indicate that. I'd also be worried about the pinblock, too.

I wish you the best of success in your piano search! Let us know how everything turns out.

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Ok- thanks. I'm not quite ready to buy a piano, but I'm going to get closer when I start working my job this fall. :) Summer must be the slowest months for piano teachers!
The piano looked nice, so I thought I'd ask here, and see if you knew anything about it, as I had never heard of the brand before. I will have to check into that book- Monica, thanks.
I believe I have found the proper recording setup now on my piano, so that may keep me occupied for the time being. Now to only have a piece good enough to put up here. Grr... Fingers seem to get jumbled even worse when I'm recording.
Looks like the society is getting closer to the goal. Maybe you'll pass it. Do you have to have the payment done at a certain time, or is this a year round fundraiser?

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tonks001, what's with the dental advertising stuff ? Seems rather out of place here. Are you posting here just to plug some business ?

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God is my life. But the piano is my livlihood for sure. Either that, or music in general.


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Thankfully, Bach and many other composers wrote for the church (the cantatas and orgelbüchlein come to mind) so there is great opportunity to combine the two. I went to one church and instead of opening in prayer, they opened with a Haydn concerto (Concerto 11 in D for those interested - yes, the whole thing!)

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 Post subject: livilihood
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[url]God is my life.[/url]

Thankfully I get to use my job for that very purpose. My background is non-denominational, but I am now working in a Pentacostal College. I try not to let doctrinal differences be a prejudice at work and I think I'm pretty good with that. What church are you part of Lukecash?

[url]I went to one church and instead of opening in prayer, they opened with a Haydn concerto (Concerto 11 in D for those interested - yes, the whole thing!)[/url]

That must be something to see. What church are you part of organtechnic23?

[url]We have this antique german piano that was my grandad's during world war ii.[/url]

I'd like to see the picture, tonks001.

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That must be something to see. What church are you part of organtechnic23?


I work part-time at a Presbyterian church. They've been super helpful in getting me interested in music and encouraging me to continue studying organ literature in particular. Though the church where they opened with a concerto was a Lutheran church. I was stopping by because their choir was performing a Bach cantata and I guess they felt like opening with Haydn that day! :o No complaints here!

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It's a hobby for me. I have made a little bit of money playing in the past, and occasionally will get a party or function that pays. But not really big bucks probably just barely covers what I've spent on instruments, and music, over the years. I'm retired from an Army Reserve Band where I played piano for the stage band and small jazz ensemble, and trombone for Marching and Concert bands. Now I sub on organ and piano at church once in a while, and will occasionally play at a nursing home, or senior, center, etc.

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livehood.

I perform in the USA and teach piano

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I've been fortunate to have had a lifelong love affair with music, but never made the piano my career, which was actually in business and management. Piano has always been my favorite hobby though. Now that I'm retired, I spend considerable time on my recording projects and enjoy every moment of it!

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Piano is not my career, nor my hobby, it is my medication that I have to take in order to thrive in the real world :D

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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avguste: I noticed you teach on skype. How has that worked for you? I've been interested in getting started with that, but have not really looked into skype enough to figure out how it works. Also, do you get students from all over, like even far away countries?
Any help would be great.
At times, I feel somewhat bound to the piano when I am working, but it is the very thing I wind down with even if I've worked on it, or taught it all day. Maybe there's a sense of accomplishment from the stresses of teaching and a sigh of relief that I don't have to struggle as the beginning students do. I think in my new job, it will be lovely to let the fingers do the talking all day instead of trying to come up with the right words to teach it.
:) Thought there is a certain satisfaction in teaching, as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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Skype teaching is not common.
To be honest, as of now, I dont have any Skype students. Very busy with teaching in the school, concerts and recordings, so havent really advertised
Skype yet.
Generally speaking, Skype is not for everyone. It is generally for advanced and professional type level pianists.
I do have plans on further advertising Skype in North America and France, but it will take time

What do you teach?Where do you teach?

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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avguste wrote:
Skype teaching is not common.
To be honest, as of now, I dont have any Skype students. Very busy with teaching in the school, concerts and recordings, so havent really advertised
Skype yet.
Generally speaking, Skype is not for everyone. It is generally for advanced and professional type level pianists.
I do have plans on further advertising Skype in North America and France, but it will take time

What do you teach?Where do you teach?



I teach piano/accompany the choir at a Pentecostal Bible college (the religion ideas are hard to get used to). I have 6 students there. I teach some private (not staff) lessons at the State University in town. I also teach at my home. I also accompany the Suzuki program at the University. I also have a new position I will start in the fall as accompanist for a junior high and high school that are really close together, so it is walking distance. I'm looking forward to the new position, but will have to unfortunately end my teaching at the college. I haven't decided about Suzuki yet. I have to see where the schedule takes me.
I'm very excited that I'll get the benefits with this job as well as pay. This includes retirement, life insurance, dental and medical. In other words, my first really professional job.
I should look into skype teaching anyway. Could be another outlet. I have it downloaded just so I could see what it was like.

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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Also, I meant to ask on that last post, but forgot.

I have a student interested in Jazz. I was wondering if you could give me the early composers that had the most influence on jazz. And, I know this is a classical forum, but maybe someone could give me tips on teaching jazz. I'm classically trained, so I will have to learn a lot of it as I go.

The reason for this post is that I still think he needs to play the classical stuff, but I thought I could gear it towards jazz to make it interesting for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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You know a good place to start might be to find easier arrangements of jazz melodies (with a bit of a classical influence.)

I know George Shearing for example has written many nice arrangements with a classical influence. There are also many others and if you like a can PM you my favorites. I have a few books that use all the standard jazz voicings and embellishments that are also really easy to play and I think good for sight reading practice for example.


Strictly speaking a big part of jazz instruction is learning to play without notes and adapting you're playing style to the environment. That is, as a jazz pianist you might expect to play with or without a bass player, with or without a soloist and or other rhythmic instruments. I know some jazz pianists don't start out playing jazz by reading music but some of course do. I suspect most classically trained pianists would feel comfortable starting with a score in hand.

Also playing without a score is not something we learn over night I think (not that I am the expert here.) Its really a different way of looking at practicing and playing the piano (which requires a lot of discipline.)


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Also, I meant to ask on that last post, but forgot.

I have a student interested in Jazz. I was wondering if you could give me the early composers that had the most influence on jazz. And, I know this is a classical forum, but maybe someone could give me tips on teaching jazz. I'm classically trained, so I will have to learn a lot of it as I go.

The reason for this post is that I still think he needs to play the classical stuff, but I thought I could gear it towards jazz to make it interesting for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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At this point in my life music is a hobby for me. I have played a few professional jobs, Subbing at churches, playing in an Army Reserve band for 15 years, Playing with a big band (didn't pay much when you have to split it 18 ways), and playing an occasional dinner music, cocktail party type gig, etc. I've never tried to actually make a living at it. I do have a government job that will allow me to retire in 5 years at the age of 55 and at that time I will be looking to supplement my retirement income with a regular Church music job.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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I suppose piano is my livelihood, I say that because I want it to be when I get older. I'm 14 :wink:


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Jacobgoblin wrote:
For me I think it's an excellent hobby.

I also think it's an excellent course of study... an excellent skill... an excellent party trick... an excellent career... an excellent pathway to expand the mind... an excellent exercise for coordination and dexterity... an excellent artistic pursuit... an excellent emotional outlet... an excellent obsession for the rest of one's life...

Yes, all of that and more. Though, excellent career I'm not so sure about, unless you are extremely good.

But, may I ask, what's with the signature ? You want to promote something ? Not quite the place for that here.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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I have had a lifelong love-affair with music, was a soloist in my school-choir and played enthusiastically the Recorder,
made-up my own little tunes on my Recorder and I have collected a few thousand classical records over the years.

Every morning I make sure I have a chance to listen to a record whilst having my breakfast and it is very inspiring.

I always wanted to learn to play the Piano, but first there was no space, then there was no money
and later I did not come across an instrument that appealed to me.

But a few years ago I heard by chance a Square-Piano being played at a sale-exhibition and it was love at first tone.
That was it for me, I had found my instrument.

I then started to learn how to play the Square-Piano from scratch and I started learning seriously how to read music and how to tune my instrument.
It has become to be my favourite hobby and I love every minute of it.


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It is far more than a hobby (which for me is historical wargaming [WWII and American Civil War]), but not my livlihood. I fell in love with "classical" music while in 7th grade upon hearing portions of Bach's Mass in B-Minor (portions of the Credo). From then on it has been a passion and integral to my life (with the exception of a hiatus that was sadly way too long). I really appreciate this web community for the opportunities it offers in so many ways.

Changing the subject:
@Kristinaolga, I belive that a square piano will not have the full range of a modern piano. Is that correct? If so, it could present significant limitations.

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musical-md wrote:
Changing the subject:
@Kristinaolga, I belive that a square piano will not have the full range of a modern piano. Is that correct? If so, it could present significant limitations.


Yes, musical-mc, it is true, my Square-Piano has 5½ octaves but that causes no limitations, but rather an inspiration to “navigate around it, if necessary”.
The bass-tones are very deep and growling and sound absolutely wonderful, and the high-tones sing very beautifully,
and when I lift the dampers with the pedal the mixture of tones are amazing as they flow through the air and slowly fade away...
Many of my favourite composers wrote their compositions on this type of instrument, even “modern” ones like Elgar and Sibelius.

My real challenges were practicalities like finding a teacher who loves and understands these instruments.
I had a few teachers, but they had 10 little hammers on their hands and wanted to instruct me in “hammering”,
but I did not think it was good for my Square-Piano or me.

Unfortunately I did not succeed in finding a teacher and had to research myself how to learn playing on the Square-Piano,
read music, tune the instrument etc.

Another challenge was to make the environment right for the Square-Piano, it is constructed of wood only
and it does not like Central-Heating as this would split the sound-board; in fact, it does not like any heating in the winter at all,
and it always needs a thermostatically controlled humidifier to be on, and this humidifier has to be cleaned and decalcified on a very regular basis.
The Square Piano also likes the window to be open slightly throughout the year and it likes to be tuned on a regular basis, whenever the weather changes.

But all that does not bother me at all. I am very happy that I found this Square Piano because it helped me tremendously going through a very bad patch in my life
and having me-time and focus on something new and exciting.

For example, one of my favourite pieces in music always was “Greensleeves” and I have heard many versions of it
(Vaughan Williams, Holst, many instrumental versions, many singers etc) and I always thought I would play it differently.
Finally I had a way to express how I wanted "Greensleeves" to be played and it has been great fun ever since
and as I have said, it is my favourite hobby.


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kristianolga wrote:
Another challenge was to make the environment right for the Square-Piano, it is constructed of wood only and it does not like Central-Heating as this would split the sound-board; in fact, it does not like any heating in the winter at all, and it always needs a thermostatically controlled humidifier to be on, and this humidifier has to be cleaned and decalcified on a very regular basis. The Square Piano also likes the window to be open slightly throughout the year and it likes to be tuned on a regular basis, whenever the weather changes.
Sounds very demanding. Are you sure it's vaccinations are up to date? :wink:

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But all that does not bother me at all. I am very happy that I found this Square Piano because it helped me tremendously going through a very bad patch in my life and having me-time and focus on something new and exciting.
That is good news.

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The bass-tones are very deep and growling and sound absolutely wonderful, and the high-tones sing very beautifully,and when I lift the dampers with the pedal the mixture of tones are amazing as they flow through the air and slowly fade away... Many of my favourite composers wrote their compositions on this type of instrument, even “modern” ones like Elgar and Sibelius.
Well, you have certainly wet my appetite. Maybe someday you will provide a recorded sample for us to hear. Although, what I would expect to hear would be quite equivalent to the sound of a spinet piano.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
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Hello, musical-md, thanks for you kind words.

Your remark about the up-to-date vaccinations of my Square Piano made me smile
because I must admit, it is my pet-piano and I care for it very much. :D

Maybe soon I attempt to upload my “Greensleeves” on this site but I have never done this before,
so I have to study how to do it and this may take a little while.

Kind regards from Kristinaolga.


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Kristinaolga wrote:
Maybe soon I attempt to upload my “Greensleeves” on this site but I have never done this before,
so I have to study how to do it and this may take a little while.

I will be interested to hear your take on Greensleeves. The version by Vaughan Williams I hope ?
You also mentioned Sibelius, Elgar, and Holst. Would you record music from them too ? Piano pieces by Elgar and Holst are quite rare.

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Hello, techneut,

Thanks for the encouragement, it is very much appreciated.

I am currently learning Elgar’s “Nimrod”, but I have to work on it a little longer.

My “Greensleeves” is not very elaborate and not the Vaughan Williams version,
I wanted to keep it in its early Lute-version and took a very simple source,
which I repeated in a higher octave and at the end I put on a “little cheerfulness”
which I heard in an early Bagpipe-version, to “come out of the melancholy” so to speak.

I am only a beginner with my Forte-Piano and I must say I like to be a bit creative with my pieces,
so sometimes I create my own little versions.

Thanks for the encouragement, from Kristinaolga.


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Kristinaolga wrote:
I have had a lifelong love-affair with music, was a soloist in my school-choir and played enthusiastically the Recorder,
made-up my own little tunes on my Recorder and I have collected a few thousand classical records over the years.

Every morning I make sure I have a chance to listen to a record whilst having my breakfast and it is very inspiring.

I always wanted to learn how to play on Piano, but first there was no space, then there was no money
and later I did not come across an instrument that appealed to me.

But a few years ago I heard by chance a Square-Piano being played at a sale-exhibition and it was love at first tone.
That was it for me, I had found my instrument.

I then started to learn how to play the Square-Piano from scratch and I started learning seriously how to read music and how to tune my instrument.
It has become to be my favourite hobby and I love every minute of it.

That is a great story of you love to piano music. Well for me, it is a hobby. A lifelong hobby. Whenever I play our piano, it somehow relaxes me and it's very soothing to my ears to listen to it. Well not just my piano playing, but almost all piano musics.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:59 am 
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for me it's always been half and half... :) It was my hobby from the age of 2&a half till 18 :p then it developed into a passion and livelihood. There have been points which I've taught piano too. Now music is more of a hobby because I can't live without it and am going into a full- blown music teacher career for 4 years soon but once I'm done and out of it.......

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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:48 pm 
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Hi,

I had a very hard time deciding on a major when I went to college. I loved piano and music but didn't see how it could earn my living, so I ended up with a math degree and many extra credits in music. It only took a year after college before I found a job teaching for a piano school and piano has been my job ever since, over 20 years. I always tell teens to go after their passion. I sing, accompany and teach. I love my life and am very happy! Unfortunately I have forgotten much of the math I had learned.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the Piano your hobby or livlihood?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:02 pm 
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misspam wrote:
Unfortunately I have forgotten much of the math I had learned.
Heh, I can relate to that. It is amazing how quickly and thoroughly all of it seems to evaporate when you don't ever use it anymore. I am baffled by all but the most basic school stuff. Ah well, music is much more interesting anyway :D

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