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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:09 am 
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Maybe we can play a little game. Today I recorded three little miniatures but I wonder if anyone can guess the pieces - or at least the composers.

Hint: Two of the three are of the some composer. Also, I know on the the third one there is an audible note. Grrr...didn't hear that when I was recording. Probably because it was inaudible! (duh to me.. :lol: )

So anyway, here they are. And if you do know the pieces and know if I'm playing them badly, please let me know. I've only ever heard one of the three before.


mystery piece #1

mystery piece #2

mystery piece #3

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:32 am 
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Monica, great recordings! But the file names give out the surprise! Try to change them before everybody sees'em :)

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 Post subject: Re: name that tune!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:08 am 
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Oh shoot - thanks Alexandre. Looks like this didn't go as planned. I think I could change things if I use a bunch of these [url][/url] but well...forget it....it'll take me too long.

So okay the three pieces are:

#1 - Villa-Lobos - Cirandas No. 2 "A Condessa"

#2 - Villa-Lobos - Cirandas no. 15 "Que Lindos Olhos!"

#3 - Alkan - Barcarolle Op. 65, no. 6


I chose the Alkan piece because I heard one of the competitors at the competition play this and it sounded like something I could maybe play. The notes and rhythm are easy, but keeping soft, smooth, and steady is not. The Villa-Lobos pieces are ones I've never heard before but I picked them really just because of the titles. The no. 2 "A Condessa" because I wish I was a countess, and the no. 15 "Que Lindos Olhos" which translates to "What Beautiful Eyes" and I have this thing about eyes so...

Maybe I'll try to stump everybody next time. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:27 am 
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Hi Monica, congratulations on tackling such complex music as the Cirandas. They're often polyrhythmic, with a polytonal approach. As you've probably noticed, he usually takes a cellular motif (like an alternating major second) and repeats it throughout while constructing the melody and another accompainment. They're like studies.

I also like the Alkan.

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 Post subject: Re: name that tune!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:07 pm 
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Thank you, Alexandre. I have never played any Villa-Lobos music before so I didn't know about the complexities. He is hard! But neat too. I really, really love that one piece - can't remember the name - I know two members have already recorded it, but it's so strange because I just popped over to the main site and can't find it! :shock: What the heck - I know we have it here somewhere. It's just such a nice piece - I have to play it - that is if I can figure out what it is. Do you know? It's sort of slowish and has all these really luscious chords all over. Very seductive!! Ohhhh anybody - what is that piece??

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hi, Monica!

I'm glad that you are playing Villa-lobos. I know beans about the Cirandas, but they are lovely (you know... they are child songs). why don't you try his Bachiana Brasileira no. 4? I have recorded only the first movement (which is the easiest one...) but I love it so much!

I'm much happier that you are playing Alkan! You play his most famous barcarolle, but at first I thought you were playing my favorite one, which is Op. 67 (I've sent to you by e-mail. I've also sent you his Op. 35 no. 8, which sounds so easy but it's very difficult.). I agree it's very difficult to play this barcarolle. It's difficult not to mark the last note of each beat in the left hand.

I don't like the way you play the transition to G major, but I love the way you play the transition back to G minor.

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 Post subject: Re: name that tune!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:47 am 
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Hi Felipe,

I know that the Cirandas are children's music - seems I am attracted to music that is about children or for children or features tunes from childrens songs, etc.... Probably because I'm a mother. But why is that these 'children' pieces are always so hard!? Did any of these composers write children's music that isn't so hard, I wonder?

Regarding the Alkan - so do you think that I put too much of a break when going into the G-major section? I wasn't sure how much room I should put between the parts - maybe it's supposed to go forward more without stopping? Thanks for the recordings you sent - I'll listen to them tomorrow.

p.s. Regarding the piece I was thinking about earlier - it's not Villa-Lobos. It's Ginastera! I had the wrong guy - oops - hehe :lol:

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pianolady wrote:
I wasn't sure how much room I should put between the parts - maybe it's supposed to go forward more without stopping?

I'd not say "it's not supposed" to sound this way. But I find it unnatural. I think there is not need for room in this first transition. I always treat these kind of transitions this way:

1) from the Gm do G, it's nice to make it sound like from a transition from "dark" to "brighter". it can be expressed in dynamics (from p to mp or mF) or touch.
2) the opposite from G to Gm. you did it a very beautiful transition here. it almost fade out... then you get again in p.

anyway... I think I'm theorizing such obvious ideas. No big deal! hehe

but I think you can get into the G major without stopping.

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 Post subject: Re: name that tune!
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Ok, maybe I'll make a re-do and try for a better transition. Thanks for the suggestion! :)

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pianolady wrote:
Ok, maybe I'll make a re-do and try for a better transition. Thanks for the suggestion! :)

if you feel like.
since the last transition is extremely well played, maybe you redo, then it gets better in the first one but worse in the last.
hehehe

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felipesarro wrote:
pianolady wrote:
Ok, maybe I'll make a re-do and try for a better transition. Thanks for the suggestion! :)

if you feel like.
since the last transition is extremely well played, maybe you redo, then it gets better in the first one but worse in the last.
hehehe



grrr.... :x :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: name that tune!
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I remember that I had to redo Ravel's La Vallée des Cloches in order to correct an ugly misreading... but then some PS user complaint that the first version was much better played than the remake, and that I should have kept the that version with the misreading. hehe

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G, Gm.... you talk like a very "hip" and "pop" musician, Felipe!!! Getting enough "gigs" lately?

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(Just Kidding!)

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well... everytime I read something related to music in English, they like to say A, B, C instead of "la", "si", "do"...

but I started as a "popular" electronic keyboard player. :lol:

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felipesarro wrote:
well... everytime I read something related to music in English, they like to say A, B, C instead of "la", "si", "do"...

but I started as a "popular" electronic keyboard player. :lol:


And did you sing along too - maybe like Elton John or Frank Sinatra? :P For some reason, I can't sing and play piano at the same time that well. Too bad - there goes my chance of becoming a lounge singer.... :lol:

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pianolady wrote:
And did you sing along too - maybe like Elton John or Frank Sinatra? :P

or Justin Timberlake (that's what Orkut says, hehe).
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no, I didn't. that time when I played and sang was the first one.
I also thought I'd not be able to do both things together...
anyway... I'd rather play the piano better than singing along. :lol:

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That is so funny!! :lol: And you do look a lot like him! I saw something like that 'likeness' thing on Facebook too. Thought about clicking on it but then chickened out.

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