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This is up, Alexandre. I like that one. Nice job.

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Thank you Juufa and Monica,

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 Post subject: Onze de Maio, quadrilha
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Hello Folks, back after 5 months!
The transition of the masters course to the phd course kept me from recording new Nazareths, but I have some good news. I was working on the following project www.ernestonazareth.com.br which, for the first time in history, put together Ernesto Nazareth's entire output. I provided the scores and reviewed everything 4 times (the modern editions are loaded with errors). Original editions and manuscripts were used for the revision. And what's best: everything is for free, pdfs one click away. I'm sure no other composer in Brazil has had this kind of thing done before. Now I hope to see more Nazareth pieces played by piano society members!

Today I recorded the 54th Nazareth, a 'quadrilha' called "Onze de Maio" (May 11th). Quadrilha is a type of dance (in groups), and at the moment I'm not sure how to translate it. It has 5 parts. Nazareth composed 4 quadrilhas, and none has been recorded commercially.

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Hello Alexandre!!!

Quadrilha is a Brazilian dance, a derivative of the European "quadrille", which is also a precursor to the north-american Square dance. So, to my view, while there is no exact translation, you could either call it a Brazilian Quadrille or Brazilian Square Dance.

As always, very nicely played! Are you still using the Kurzweil? This sounds very nice indeed!

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Hi Marcelo!
Thanks for the translation. Brazilian Quadrillhe sounds nice. By the way, I'm positively sure this is an urban dance, performed in the "salons", contrasting to our present-day quadrille, which is played at Junine Parties, reminiscent of the field culture :)

The piano is the Kurzweill Mark 10. (although I have a Kawai kx-21, the digital still offers better recording possibilities).

If ayone wishes to listen looking at the score, it can be viewed here (together with all his other 210 compositions):

http://www.ernestonazareth.com.br/pdfs/onze_de_maio.pdf

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Not vintage Nazareth this, IMO. Bit of a patchwork. I don't like the opening part. But there is plenty of infectious writing later on, and your pianism is superb as always. Your dedication ro Nazareth is exemplary, he could not have gotten a better advocate.

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This is up, Alexandre. Sounds good except I hear two strange cuts in the first section. But I liked the other sections and you played this all very nicely.

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Hello Chris and Monica, thank you for the commentaries.

Chris, I don't know what you mean by vintage (for I only know it in the sense of something from another generation), but I hear you. This piece isn't among his masterpieces, and I had to get accostumed to it in order to develop a coherent interpretation.

Monica, there were no cuts in the first section, you must be referring to glitches inherent to the piano.

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 Post subject: Menino de Ouro, Brazilian tango
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Hi folks,
Here's the 55th Nazareth: Menino de Ouro (Golden boy). It's one of his nice works, which shows what he did best (Brazilian tangos).

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Nazareth - Menino de Ouro (Golden Boy)


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Hi Alexandre,

This is up. Nice little piece - I liked the rhythm in the middle section. One thing - your bit rate on this file is higher than what we like. Please watch that next time.

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Hi Monica,
Thank you, sorry about that. Here's a 128kbps file of it.

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ok thanks, Alexandre. I switched out the two files. And listening again to this piece made me think that Nazareth must have been a happy man most of the time - do you think?

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Hi Monica,
His music certainly is lighthearted most of the time, but that doesn't necessarily reflects his life. By the time he wrote this piece, he had already lost his younger daughter, was becoming irreversibly deaf, and syphilis was acting on his system, which would eventually lead to his sad end at the psychiatric institution.

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Excellent as always !
Reading about the sad state he was in when composing this, one can only marvel at how music can
keep people going in the most dire of situations. No other form of art can do that, I think.

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oh wow - that's terrible about his life! A little like Schumann. But it baffles me as to how these composers can not only keep it going with their music, but they write joyful music when they are so full of misery. I know that when I am having a bad day, I don't say to myself, "I'm so depressed and sad - think I'll go write some happy music". Unless that is some sort of coping mechanism...

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 Post subject: Re: Menino de Ouro, Brazilian tango
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This is really nice Lisztzsil,

And thank you for introducing me to this composer. Somehow I did not know much about Nazareth.

My parents really like Tango's so I suspect I will need to take a closer look at his work.

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Hi folks,
Here's the 55th Nazareth: Menino de Ouro (Golden boy). It's one of his nice works, which shows what he did best (Brazilian tangos).

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Nazareth - Menino de Ouro (Golden Boy)


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Thank you s_winitsky,
You're being introduced to his lesser known works, which is something interesting, to my view.
If you want to know his most famous works, check out: Odeon, Brejeiro, Apanhei-te Cavaquinho, Escorregando, Fon-Fon, Dengozo and Confidências.


Mônica and Chris, you're right, many composers are famous for writing lighthearted music during hard times (Joplin was another example).

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I like "Apanhei-te cavaquinho" :D

well played, it makes the piano sounds like a real "cavaquinho", which is the instrument below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavaquinho

PS: I played the "cavaquinho" long ago... but I didn't like it, so I forgot everything.

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 Post subject: 1922, Brazilian tango
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Hi Folks,
Today I've recorded one of his compositions for the Carnaval. It's called 1922, composed for the Carnaval of that year. It was originally subtitled as a Samba in the manuscript, but changed to "Brazilian tango" when published. It has never been recorded commercially.

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Nazareth - 1922 (Brazilian tango)


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Cute piece! This is up, Alexandre.

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 Post subject: Eulina, polka
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Dear folks,
Here's the 57th rare Nazareth, a polca he dedicated to his daughter Eulina in 1893. It sounds rather like a lullaby, for it was written when Eulina was just a child.

It has never been recorded commercially.

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Nazareth - Eulina (Polka)


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Sorry for the delay; this one almost slipped passed me. It's up now, and nice job as usual, Alexandre.

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Thanks, Monica.

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Very pretty indeed, if IMO a bit too long for its musical content. Great playing as ever.

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Thanks, Chris.
The recording got too long because I decided to play the form ABACABA instead of plain ABACA. The first form is written down in most of his Brazilian tangos, and Nazareth himself recorded this form when playing some of his tangos. But I'm still deciding what to do in this matter.

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Hello folks,
Today I've recorded one of Nazareth's Schottisches: Gentil ("gentle"). It's a rather simple piece, full of tiptoeness. This musical gender was common in Brazil during the Belle Époque (transition between the 19th and 20th centuries), and it's sort of a slow polca.

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This one is up, Alexandre. Sounded nice. Also, what is a Schottische?

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Hi Monica, the Schottisch is a kind of slow polka, danced in pairs, and it arrived in Brazil in the late 19th century, brought by the Portuguese. Here in northeastern Brazil it evolved in a very unique way, culminating in today's xótis and forrós, whose most prominent author is Luiz Gonzaga. However, when Nazareth composed his Schottishes, the dance was more closely associated to the European tradition, although it was already a genre with Brazilian identities (many Brazilian composers of the period composed Schottisches, most notably Anacleto de Medeiros).

Wikipedia has a very interesting article on the genre, and through it I've learned that it spread from Bohemia to many countries, including Europe and America. It also says that it's one of Spain's most typical dances.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schottische

Albeit the name, apparently it doesn't have relation with Scotland.

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Hi Alexandre and thanks for the explanation. Although I find something funny in that Wiki article - it's this sentence:

Despite the name, this dance has no direct relation with Scotland. The word Schottische is from Germany , not Scotland (the Germans referred to it as Schottische, which means Scottish, for some reason).

:lol:

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Yes, that's a bit incoherent and requires further diggin'!


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Hello everybody!

I'm new around here, and I love this site, very nice idea! I have in my iPod TONS of recordings from here :).

I'm a fan of Ernesto Nazareth, I think he is a true genious! Unfortunally is almost impossible to find the sheet music, perhaps Lizstsztil or other ppl have some of them to share. Although they're public domain I can find only few pieces at IMSLP.ORG and some avaiable pieces are blocked(???).

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Last I checked you can find all of his works in pdf here:

http://www.ernestonazareth.com.br/a_obr ... php?area=1

Its a good site. I also like playing Nazareth.

I believe there is no copyright on his music anymore.

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Hello everybody!

I'm new around here, and I love this site, very nice idea! I have in my iPod TONS of recordings from here :).

I'm a fan of Ernesto Nazareth, I think he is a true genious! Unfortunally is almost impossible to find the sheet music, perhaps Lizstsztil or other ppl have some of them to share. Although they're public domain I can find only few pieces at IMSLP.ORG and some avaiable pieces are blocked(???).

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THANK YOU!!!!!!! :D


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Last I checked you can find all of his works in pdf here:

http://www.ernestonazareth.com.br/a_obr ... php?area=1

Its a good site. I also like playing Nazareth.

I believe there is no copyright on his music anymore.

Al-Mahed wrote:
Hello everybody!

I'm new around here, and I love this site, very nice idea! I have in my iPod TONS of recordings from here :).

I'm a fan of Ernesto Nazareth, I think he is a true genious! Unfortunally is almost impossible to find the sheet music, perhaps Lizstsztil or other ppl have some of them to share. Although they're public domain I can find only few pieces at IMSLP.ORG and some avaiable pieces are blocked(???).

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Way to go, Stan! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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Hello guys!

After 5 months without recording I'm back.

This is one of Nazareth's most profound pieces, called Mágoas ("Sorrows"), and subtitled "medidation". A lot of Chopin influences, and very different from his Brazilian Tangos and Waltzes. This piece has never been published, but you can see a modern edition of it here:
http://www.ernestonazareth.com.br/pdfs/magoas.pdf

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Ok, this is up, Alexandre. Sounded good as usual. And you're right - this one is different than a lot of the others.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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I liked the piece and you play it well! It's always fascinating to discover a rare find, isn't it? Definitely different from other Brazilian music I've heard.

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Thanks for the comments Monica and 88man.
88man, yes it's always great to discover new interesting pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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Not your 'typical' Nazareth piece indeed... But none the worse for it ! A real charmer, though IMO a bit too long for its content. The ending is very daring and unusual.
I have to say the anodyne digital sound (which does not normally bother me much in your recordings) does this piece no favours. How great it would sound on a real instrument.... But as splendidly played as always !

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Hi Chris,
Thank you for your remarks. I agree that the ending is very daring and unusual. It is a very ellaborate piece in many ways, either harmonically or pianistically.

I also agree that this piece must be recorded on an acoustic piano. However the experiences I have done with my Kawai don't turn up well. Maybe I'll find better ways to record it, and make a debut eventually.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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Dear folks,
Today I've recorded Nazareth's great Polonaise. It has been recorded only once and few people know it. Hope you like it.
If you want the score, there is an edition of it reviewed by my: http://www.ernestonazareth.com.br/pdfs/poloneza.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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This is up, Alexandre. I like this one, despite it being a tad on the long side. However, the digital piano does it no favors - this one really needs to be played on a 'giant' grand. Maybe some day you can get your hands on one and re-record this.

Also (a gentle reminder), common courtesy dictates that members who regularly post recordings should also comment on other members' recordings. (I'm going to tell other members this too) It simply makes our forum and site more lively and fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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This is up, Alexandre. I like this one, despite it being a tad on the long side. However, the digital piano does it no favors - this one really needs to be played on a 'giant' grand.

I had the same points but forgot to post. IMO, this piece does outstay its welcome, I find it rather bloated and repetitive, even though it has its moments. I found the digital sound here positively off-putting in some places. I don't normally have that with your recordings, I guess it's that this piece just cries for more real sonority than the jolly dances we usuall have from Nazareth. Your rock-solid and razor-sharp polonaise rhythm is fantastic though !

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Hello Monica and Chris,

Thank you for the comments, either positive and negative. I did think it would sound too long, however this is the version with cuts. Nazareth wrote a good deal of other repetitions.

When I get to record his complete works it will be undoubtedly recorded on a piano grand in studio, but for now I don't have access to one (Brasília doesn't have a studio with a good piano). Meanwhile I'm doing the best I can on my Kurzweil. (The acoustics of my living room aren't good for recording on my Kawai upright and I haven't found a solution for this yet).

Seven years ago I played this piece in a television program, which had a steinway grand availble. It's on youtube, if you'd like to watch it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-lAHBElrgM

Back then my interpretation of it was more rushed and I could only play one take, so it's full of errors.

Monica, I'll increase my participation in other posts, thanks for the reminder.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare music of Ernesto Nazareth
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For all its little slips (none of them really disturbing), I like this one a lot better. Here is the sense of danger and mad abandon that a piece like this needs, as well as the full-throated sound. I do think in both versions you take the secondary section too slow to keep it interesting.

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Hi Chris, glad you like it.

I can make the Andante moderato a bit more vivo, thanks for the suggestion.

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I can make the Andante moderato a bit more vivo, thanks for the suggestion.

I understand you wanted to bring some contrast. But it's too much IMO, it suddenly sags. It will be more effective if you take the tempo down just a tiny bit, and the contrast will still be there.

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Wow, Alexandre - I liked your video! Great to see you in action!! I am very impressed by how fast you can play octaves. I'm wondering, do you ever have any pain in your wrists?

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Hi Monica, usually not.
However to record this polonaise this week I spent about 4 hours playing it, and my hands got a bit sore.

I generally try to follow the principle of stopping when you feel any kind of pain. I'm reading a book by Gyorgy Sandor called "On Piano Playing" which is a very lucid treatise on techinique. He advocates that you do not need to build up your musculature to play the piano, and any person can extract the biggest sounds without feeling pain. It's a matter of coordination of your musculature.

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lisztzsil wrote:
I generally try to follow the principle of stopping when you feel any kind of pain. I'm reading a book by Gyorgy Sandor called "On Piano Playing" which is a very lucid treatise on techinique. He advocates that you do not need to build up your musculature to play the piano, and any person can extract the biggest sounds without feeling pain. It's a matter of coordination of your musculature.


I've been practicing a lot lately and have pain not only in my wrists, but now also in my RH thumb and 4th finger. I do totally agree with what Sandor says about big sounds/no pain. I'm attending a class next month on the Alexander Technique (hey, is that you? :lol: ) that supposedly teaches about how to move one's body more efficiently and effectively at the piano. Hope it works! (I should probably read that book you mentioned too)

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