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 Post subject: Bach - WTC I next installment
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:18 pm 
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Next installment in my WTC project. The D major is a re-recording. Still not very good but less awful than the previous version. That damn prelude is the bane of my existence :x Olaf is going to tell me that it is bit better than before but still not good enough. And he will be right as always. Better keep digging at it.

Bach - BWV 850 - Das Wolhtemperierte Clavier I - Prelude and Fugue No.5 in D major
Bach - BWV 853 - Das Wolhtemperierte Clavier I - Prelude and Fugue No.8 in E flat minor
Bach - BWV 861 - Das Wolhtemperierte Clavier I - Prelude and Fugue No.16 in G minor

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:11 pm 
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techneut wrote:
The D major is a re-recording. Still not very good but less awful than the previous version. That damn prelude is the bane of my existence :x Olaf is going to tell me that it is bit better than before but still not good enough. And he will be right as always. Better keep digging at it.


Oh sh*t, what for a reputation I have :oops:
Since you know what I liked to write, I don't need to comment the Dmajor P&F :P
And, if that prelude is the bane of your existence, than I propose that we exchange our problems. From me, you would get my problem with Chopin g minor ballade- because that is the bane of my existence.:lol:

Nevertheless, commments on D major Prelude: is really better than your first take, especially the lh hand part is consistent. Still, I could swear you take the pedal on that bars (and only there) that make trouble in the right hand, and that make the thing a bit blurry on those bars.
In bar 27 I started to comment a wrong note until I realized that was me who played always a wrong note there, and you are correct! :oops:
Fugue: I like that slower but steady tempo! In bar 4 /5 I missed the middle notes c#/d in right hand. Some lh 32 notes are still weak, but I know how crazy it is to be forced to play fast with 4th finger lh.
I know I repeat myself, but cannot understand why someone puts ornaments in a fugue theme, but not consistently throughout the fugue. You surely play the ornaments as in your score, mine is Peters Urtext, the single one ornament is in bar 20 and 22 (there as elaborated ornament). That is also more logical to me that way - same ornament for every theme appearing, or no ornament at all.

g minor Prelude: Is well played considering the difficulty it takes in using all fingers, and trills also in left hand. The rh trills are very well executed, in an synchronizing manner (32th notes or whatever?), because of that it sounds calm. The lh trills sound a bit strained, not only in lh, but too in rh in those bars, and some 32 notes in some bars were weak. The fugue starts, although the prelude did not faded out completely.
Fugue: I like very much, especially how you phrase the fugue theme whenever it appears!

E flat minor Prelude: I admire how well you stay in the slow groove, never could do that! According to my score, you left out the last lh chord in bar 12, and a short fumble in rh bar 31. Otherwise nothing but to praise!
Fugue: Great! My score has two alternatives, one notation with 5 sharps, another with 6 flats. Needs much concentration to come through that 4 pages without slips or so, strong playing!

At the end, I really tend to niggle and niggle, but that´should not overshadow my admiration for your achievements, especially on Bach, especially on the fugues! You seem to have no difficulty to manage to play complex and dense contrapunctual stuff, that's simply great!

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MindenBlues wrote:
E flat minor Prelude: I admire how well you stay in the slow groove, never could do that! According to my score, you left out the last lh chord in bar 12, and a short fumble in rh bar 31.

Oh rats, I never noticed that missing chord. I.m sure I play it, but inaudible. As with that fumble in bar 31. I was actually convinced I had produced my first note-perfect recording. Not so it seems :cry:
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At the end, I really tend to niggle and niggle, but that´should not overshadow my admiration for your achievements, especially on Bach, especially on the fugues! You seem to have no difficulty to manage to play complex and dense contrapunctual stuff, that's simply great!

I would not say no difficulty. But I definitely have a thing with fugues. Must be careful not to get the reputation of a stodgy contrapunt specialist here.....

Thanks for your comments as always! It just occurred to me that I am over half way with the WTC now :D

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techneut wrote:
It just occurred to me that I am over half way with the WTC now


You forgot to say that you meant WTC1 AND WTC2 with over half way! And that in the context of your other ongoing or finished cycles on organ and piano, unbelievable, really!

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I listened to all these three and I enjoyed them. Of course, I can't criticize them because these pieces are far beyond my technical abilities in counterpoint. But I've always been admiring your abilities in Bach, too. You must be somehow related to him (many people are, he had so many children :wink: ).

To make a point in this post: have you already played the P&F in A-flat major of Book II? I guess these are some of the more difficult ones, right?

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Chaotica wrote:
You must be somehow related to him (many people are, he had so many children :wink: ).

Spiritually related certainly. Yes would it not be great to be a descendant of the great JS. But I do not think there any that can be traced these days. For all his many kids, the family tree has petered out in just a couple of generations.

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To make a point in this post: have you already played the P&F in A-flat major of Book II? I guess these are some of the more difficult ones, right?

Yes, I play that A flat as well as all others. I have tended to pick all the hardest out first for recording. IMO these are the C# major, E flat major, and A minor from book 1, and the G# minor and B flat minor from book 2. But there's others that come close. Like that blasted D major prelude :evil:

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I think you did a really good job on all the PFs. The D major prelude is very difficult to execute well as it is not enough to "just hit the right keys" in this one (of course not ever...but you know what I mean). They need to be very even in timing and strength as the the ear is very sensitive to differences in repeating patterns. But i think you did a very good job and should be happy with all of these recordings.

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