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 Post subject: Bach/Siloti Air on the 4th string and Prelude BWV 855a
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:51 pm 
Two works of Aleksandr Siloti (Rachmaniniov's teacher) based on Bach.

Sandro "Sarrasani" Bisotti.



Siloti - Bach BWV 855a, Prelude in E minor from WTK I
Siloti - Bach BWV 1068, Suite for string orchestra no.3


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:23 am 
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This is a forgotten composer, performer and teacher. I know about him just because he is mentioned along with Rach and Tchaikovsky and for founding the Liszt Verein in Leipzig.

I have added Siloti to the site along with your very very good played Bach Transcriptions.

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:20 pm 
> I have added Siloti to the site along with your very very good played

Thank you. Ever so kind, Robert.
It is a little problem about these transcriptions.
Let me make two considerations:
1) as you decide is good for me also
2) there is a little problem: Busoni and Friedman transcription from Bach are under "Bach"
as composer, while these of Siloti are under "Siloti".
I have seen that the Friedman transcriptions had many downloads
( surely for the music, not for the pianist);
these (as Busoni's ones) are under "Bach" as composer. I think that under "Friedman" there would
be less downloads. But your decision is equally correct by another point of view.
A (silly, probable) idea: all transcriptions under both composers, or all under original author,
or all under "arranger" name?
But, I repeat, it's only a (not requested) suggestion, see 1).

All best,
Sandro.


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This has been a matter for discussions before and we have not been consistent. I'll have a chat with Chris to see if we shall straighten things up.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:03 pm 
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robert wrote:
This has been a matter for discussions before and we have not been consistent. I'll have a chat with Chris to see if we shall straighten things up.

I still find this a hard thing to decide. Some transcriptions stay very close to the original and therefore, in my taste, should go under the original composer. This seems to be the common practice, e.g. Bach-Busoni, Bach-Siloti, etc.... and I sort of regret I wanted to deviate from it.
On the other hand some 'transcriptions' are very free and have so little to do with the original hat they are almost new compositions. I feel that the Siloti reworking of that Bach prelude (which I do not much care for BTW) is not so much a transcription, for which there would have been no need anyway, but a very romantic piece only loosely based on that prelude.

So... the more I think about it the harder it gets to decide. Probably the only correct solution would be to put them in two places. Though I don't feel that Siloti thing belongs under Bach, no more than the Busoni Chaconne does (which is why I put that under Busoni).

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 Post subject: siloti/bach
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:19 pm 
I really like your recordings however, when trying to download the BVW855a score I get a different piece in G minor!


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 Post subject: Re: siloti/bach
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:56 am 
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oldpianoman wrote:
I really like your recordings however, when trying to download the BVW855a score I get a different piece in G minor!

Hm...I just put it up without really looking at the sheet. Now when I do, it is actually the Organ Prelude in G minor (BWV 535). Do you happen to have the score for BWV 855 prelude as well Sandro?

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 Post subject: Re: siloti/bach
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:21 pm 
robert wrote:
oldpianoman wrote:
I really like your recordings however, when trying to download the BVW855a score I get a different piece in G minor!

Hm...I just put it up without really looking at the sheet. Now when I do, it is actually the Organ Prelude in G minor (BWV 535). Do you happen to have the score for BWV 855 prelude as well Sandro?


:oops: Tomorrow I hope to have access yo an ADSL line and to send this and other things
(Korngold scores, etc.).

Sorry and all best,
Sandro.


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 Post subject: siloti/bach
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:54 pm 
BWV855 prelude. Got the score now, thanks


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