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 Post subject: Piano society: all the pianists at the same work
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:22 pm 
The idea is to choose one or two pieces and play it (them), to make a comparison of the different
ideas and results of each of us about the same score.
One way to choose the pieces (not too difficult, the question is not to see who has a more secure technique): each of us (or someone) purpose a list of 2-3 pieces, than Robert and Chris choices
2 pieces (one for each of them) from the sum of our lists: then all us will record these 2 pieces.
My list:
Schumann : - "The prophet bird"
another piece from the same opus (Waldszenen).
Scriabin :Poem op. 32 n.1

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Sandro - I like this idea, of course. It would be great to hear all of us play the exact same piece and hear how we are alike and different in our interpretations. I'm picking out three pieces that are not very hard and not very long. We don't want to listen to something that goes on forever, ten times.

1. Schubert - Waltz in D no. 6

2. Kabalevsky - Toccatina

3. Mozart - 1st movement of C major Sonata k545 (without repeats)

4. because I have to include one - Chopin Waltz in A-flat Major op. 69, no. 1 (without repeats)

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How about these?
(Prelude only)

Well-tempered Clavier Book 1 no.1, no.2 and no.21


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May I have a suggestion:

Carl Maria von Weber's "Weber's Last Thought"

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:39 pm 
juufa72 wrote:
May I have a suggestion:

Carl Maria von Weber's "Weber's Last Thought"



Excellent idea! And Carl Maria von Weber is the most important composer to not appear in
the site's composers list (we need another Richter....).
All the other suggestions seems interesting. Let's wait a few days if Chris and Robert will
to decide....

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Well, it does not need to be me or Chris who decides. We have so much to decide anyway so I would be happy if someone else did that this time. But I will try to record whatever it will become.

Sandro, sa this is your idea (excellent by the way), so why not you decide?

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Can't say I warm to the idea. I know comparing is your game Sandro, but I would not want to sit and listen to dozens of performances of the same piece. Nor decide what pieces would be suitable. But may I suggest that a choice should be made from benchmark pieces, not someone's current personal favourite like like Kabalevsky or Weber. I'll probably go along with the game once it's started. Just as long as I am not required to evaluate all the performances.

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But may I suggest that a choice should be made from benchmark pieces, not someone's current personal favourite like like Kabalevsky or Weber


That's not very nice. I merely offered up suggestions of short-ish and a variety of pieces. What is a benchmark piece? And I don't think Sandro wants you to evaluate all the recordings, just participate. Anyone of us can evaluate these (maybe). That is what this is all about and will make it fun, in my opinion. I could be wrong, which happens every once in a while. :wink:

Sandro - it probably is a good idea that you decide which piece to play. Please don't make it a hard one(s). :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:49 pm 
> What is a benchmark piece?

Brahms-Paganini variations.

> And I don't think Sandro wants you to evaluate all the recordings, just participate.

To partecipate and to listen to all pianists. If each of us will give an evaluation (excluding himself)..
Cruel exercise, but with the correct "sportman" spirit...... . However not the most important question, that is (IMHO) the comparison of musical choices.


> That is what this is all about and will make it fun, in my opinion.

Of course.

> Sandro - it probably is a good idea that you decide which piece to play.


Ok: the Weber piece purposed by Juufa72. Short, interesting, not difficult, without "excellent"
or famous recordings: very good, IMHO.
Let's collect adhesions (4 or more pianists and the "Weber game" will begin).
This is also my adhesion.
From the date of the fourth adhesion we will have 15 days to upload our recordings. Ok?

All best,
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Sandro, I know english is not your first language, and I applaud you for doing so well with it, here. I would make a mess of things if I had to write in german only. (just ask my cousin, who begged me to return to english). But when you say 'adhesions' I take it that you mean you are 'sticking' yourself in the game. I will too. I have never seen this music, before, but it will be nice to hear our renditions. Do we take the repeats? And I think maybe more than 4 people will participate.

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techneut wrote:
But may I suggest that a choice should be made from benchmark pieces, not someone's current personal favourite like like Kabalevsky or Weber.


Please dont believe that I suggested the Weber piece because it is my current favorite. It's not. I scrolled through my collection of sheet music and found this one. It looks a little more interesting than say, a simple Mozart Minuet (like my recording on the site), but it is not hard because my second suggestion would have been this one:

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I'm confused. When I opened Juufa's download, it is Lizst, not Weber. So are we using this piece?

PS: I'd like to participate.


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Or did you mean both the Weber and the Liszt. I hope not because I really don't like Liszt. I've read through both pieces and don't like the Liszt enough to even read through it again. It's OK if the rest of you want to use the Liszt. I'll enjoy listening to your performances.


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 Post subject: Mozart
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You played the entire sonata impeccably as usual...a very elegant performance. I thoroughly enjoyed listening. It surprises me how much I liked the sound of a digital piano on this composition. I found the “digital” sound especially effective in the Adagio. I bet Mozart himself would like it. I know absolutely nothing about digital pianos and don’t like the sound as well as I do an acoustic piano for most works. However, I must admit that it’s a delight to hear a piano so in tune as this.


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 Post subject: Nap time
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Forgive me, friends. I accidentally posted my reaction to the Mozart Sonata. I thought I was still in the Audition Room..................X@ZZ#@#%$@$%^@$!XXZ#$!@~!!!!!!!!!


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John, it's the Weber piece. Scroll up and you should see the file that Juufa posted.
Ok, so that's five people, I believe. Sandro, John, Robert, Chris, and myself. Room for more, right Sandro?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:12 pm 
pianolady wrote:
John, it's the Weber piece. Scroll up and you should see the file that Juufa posted.
Ok, so that's five people, I believe. Sandro, John, Robert, Chris, and myself. Room for more, right Sandro?


Ok. My purpose: each pianist uploads his/her recording between 16 and 18 of July.
From now this is the "Weber contest on pianosociety".

All best, and wishes to participating pianists :)

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John, you can just delete a posting you made by mistake.

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OK, I'm in too!

This should be interesting; not once in my life have I heard this Weber piece. Since I have nothing to compare myself to, my performance will be entirely mine.

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Hey I want to join too.
I have competition in 3 days, but I should have time to work on this piece after. :D


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I am going to pass on this one, for two reasons:

1) I am too biased about this piece. I have known it since I was a toddler, probably before I knew any real piano music. My late grandmother had a lovely Swiss music box (which is now in my possession) and this is one of the tunes on it. Whenever we went there, first thing I did was run upstairs, wind the music box and sit there in rapt wonder. It still it is a very sentimental sound to me, and I just can't envisage this music to sound any other than this. Attached is a picture of the music box (on the on the beautifully handwritten chart, it's the title at the bottom), and a recording of it playing this tune. The noise at the end is the cylinder slotting back into its initial position (of course that was part of the fascination as well).

2) I do not believe this is an original piano composition. I have played through the version that juufa posted but it seems to me like a rather crude and boring transcription. Could be wrong about it, but playing it gave me no satisfaction.

But y'all have fun with it ! At least you now know what it should sound like :wink:

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That's a neat music box. Looks very pretty. A friend of my from the Netherlands bought a music box here for his first child (expecting in 3 weeks) and it showcases "Le Vie en rose".

I checked all over the internet for the composition format of Weber's Last [Musical] Thought and I commonly saw that it was for the piano.

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juufa72 wrote:
I checked all over the internet for the composition format of Weber's Last [Musical] Thought and I commonly saw that it was for the piano.

I only checked Google :wink:
And found no evidence for it being original. Yes it's available for piano, but so is just about every popular tune written in the 19th century. Anyway, I may still be wrong.

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I love those kind of music boxes! My dad has one that used to be his mother's, except it's a wooden cabinet that plays large metal 'records' that are about a foot and half wide. I'm hoping to inherit it if I can beat my sister to it.

p.s. Yikes! the tempo is a lot faster than I expected. :shock:

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According to my Schott book, this transcription is by Carl Gottlieb Reißiger. And according to this site, it's rather not original:
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It was Reissiger, by the way, who really composed the delightful waltz known in England and this country as "Weber's Last Thought," the original melody being borrowed from an Austrian national song, and arranged by this composer in its present form.


I know this kind of game from another (German) piano forum. I didn't participate there, but I find it's a good idea and a change from the usual evaluating of recordings and such. :)

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pianolady wrote:
Yikes! the tempo is a lot faster than I expected. :shock:



I think Mr. Techneut's box is on speed.

If that is Andante, then there is no way our ears could distinguish each note at a presto tempo (following the respective metronome increase).

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juufa72 wrote:
I think Mr. Techneut's box is on speed.

Well that depends much on how far I dare to wind the spring. I was always told not to overdo it for fear of damage.

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This would have been fun to hear:

(Each person with one variation and then compiled to one continous track....sort of like the "telephone" game I used to play when I was a little kid)

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Yeah, I find the piece (weber's last thought) a bit contrived, too. I still haven't listened to anyone else's version. I'll have to play it in a way to make it different, somehow.

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