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 Post subject: Re: ornaments question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:36 pm 
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rainer wrote:
I'm not sure you need to cram all the five notes into the space of an 8th.
You could space them out a bit and play the C-D-C as triplet 16ths fitting into an 8th, and the Bb-C as ordinary 16ths fitting into the next 8th (coinciding with the printed Bb).

Thanks, Rainer, that was very interesting. I put this piece away, but now I feel like taking it back out again. It’s just sort of an unusual piece..I mean for Couperin. I might be totally wrong about that, because I really don’t know a lot about his music. But this piece just doesn’t sound baroque to me.

Anyway, that Procopio guy sure is a natural at the harpsichord! I don’t think his tempo was fast, though. But I think he did like what you said above—the C-D-C triplet.

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 Post subject: Re: ornaments question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:15 pm 
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OMG, I'm freaking out. :shock: :shock: That piece is playing right now on Pandora radio. Angela Hewitt is playing.

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 Post subject: Re: ornaments question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:22 pm 
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I know what you mean about this piece being a bit out of character in terms of what you would expect from the baroque. But it's such an amazing piece that it's no wonder it's popular.
It really grabbed me when I first heard it, and guess where that was. HERE! viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5359&start=0

I belong to a small chamber music club that holds occasional small informal gatherings in people's houses. I went to one at the home of a nice elderly man who has a harpsichord (but doesn't play it, it belonged to his late wife, who was one of the founders of the club), and since it's nice to take the chance of having a go at a harpsichord, I played this piece on it. He came to me afterwards and said that he had particularly enjoyed it because it had been his wife's favourite, she used to play it all the time.

An interesting aspect of playing this piece on the piano, as opposed to harpsichord, is that it can (and probably should) sound as though you're using pedal even when you're not - biggemski even had Eddy fooled.

You don't think Procopio is fast? Well, I didn't mean impossibly fast, but it's a good bit faster than some of the other renditions one comes across.
Elaine Comparone's (that fearsome-looking woman who always plays standing up) is worth checking out, not only for the slower speed, but also for the way she swings it in places, i.e. uses the notes inégales technique.


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 Post subject: Re: ornaments question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:46 pm 
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Seems like everybody knows this piece, except me. Now I'm a little afraid to take it on. But the more I hear it, the more I like it.

I think Hewitt's version was about the same tempo as Procopio, but I don't think she took all the repeats.

One of my piano teachers when I was in high school used to build harpsichords. He always had one in the studio, so I got to play it a few times. I do however prefer piano over harpsichord any day. I can't take that metallic sound for very long.

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